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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Qarn is a great example of why we don't have more interesting dungeons.

    Once people figured out it's faster to skip the two groups guarding tablets and just deal with the one group of extra ghosts at the end, a lot of people stopped taking the time to pick up tablets.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    This is a problem with Qarn's design. If, like in Toto-Rak, it was required that you get the items to actually summon the boss then you wouldn't have this issue. Obviously people that just want to get the dungeon done as quickly as possible aren't going to do stuff they don't need to do - that's why you force them to do the interesting stuff. Like in Wanderer's Palace, where you have to go around and get the Lantern Oil, sneaking past the Tonberry Stalkers, to get to the Flan boss. People used to speedrun WP all the time, but they were still forced to get the Oil and sneak past the Stalkers. There's no reason that the new dungeons have to be literal hallways with trash in them that lead to a boss - that is functionally boring and makes all the dungeons feel exactly the same.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    1 possible iteration having an obvious flaw does not prove every single possible iteration outside the patterns we use now to also be flawed, or at least no more than one person being unable to tie their shoes would make shoelaces fundamentally problematic.
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