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  1. #1
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    Trixze's Avatar
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    Trixze Star
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 80

    Is dancer a waste of time?

    I am worried about the low dps. Is the utility enough to make up for how low they are? I fell in love with this job, I would like to make it my main but would also like to do Titania extreme and not be the lowest dps. I am going to stick with it and hope they make it better soon!
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    Last edited by Trixze; 07-29-2019 at 12:55 AM.

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    oph's Avatar
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    O'phyro Dhekku
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    It smelly smells, but here it goes:

    Outstanding raid contribution = Low personal dps

    or

    Low or non-existent raid contribution = High personal dps

    Pick one.
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  3. #3
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    DNC can hit over 10,000 in terms of rDPS. It could use maybe slight potency buffs, but at 95th percentiles for the current EX fights, it’s only ~400 rDPS behind MCH, ~300 rDPS behind BRD. We’ll see how well it fairs in Savage, but thus far it is in a better state with its direct competitors compared to SMN and RDM versus BLM.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Braelyn Browne
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Like Oph said, Dancer is the most 'Support-like' of the DPS classes, with strong raidwide buffs. If that appeals to you, then I don't think Dancer is a waste, but like others said, being a DPS-support means that you won't be doing as much personal DPS
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    Yesunova Hotgo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Given utility, yeah, it is expected to do low DPS and at the bottom of the DPS table is where it belongs...this is me saying this as a DNC main too. It's a great job to play and I'm loving it regardless. Of course, where there is disparity they're kind of things to get addressed in patches anyway. And a 300 dps difference once contributions are taken into account is not that bad.

    And top percentile only affects a small population. Some people seem to get in a habit of basing job choices on what's meta for top percentile groups. Anything below that just means some jobs will be harder to maximise DPS than others, so you might have to be a better player to compensate any differences. If you are looking at top percentile groups then my point of course is moot.

    But I generally go with the argument, unless you're looking to optimise to the max, go with what you enjoy playing because chances are, you'll be better at it versus a meta job you don't enjoy. And if bigger deeps and bigger numbers are what do it for you, then yes, DNC might not be what you're looking for.
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  6. #6
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Well those jobs with the top dps usually have a dancer behind scene so yes, dance is adding good dps.
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  7. #7
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Essentially DNC is behind the other two but not enough for it to matter.
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  8. #8
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    YanderePrincess's Avatar
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    Character
    Svana Fyth
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Practicing with my static friday night, I was easily getting 1k+ extra dps via what I contributed to the rest of the group, and coming in second in the party on rDPS while being 3rd or 4th in pDPS. I wouldn't object to some small potency increases, but I'm pretty happy with things where they are.
    (4)
    "Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood." ~Oscar Wilde

  9. #9
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    DNC can hit over 10,000 in terms of rDPS. It could use maybe slight potency buffs, but at 95th percentiles for the current EX fights, it’s only ~400 rDPS behind MCH, ~300 rDPS behind BRD. We’ll see how well it fairs in Savage, but thus far it is in a better state with its direct competitors compared to SMN and RDM versus BLM.
    Those are some cherry picked parses. Dancer doesn't do dps like that unless you get lucky with procs. Dancer has pretty bad sustained dps if your luck is average. I'd say 9000 is a more reaistic dps number for dancer with rDPS. It's a good 1000 or so behind everybody else.
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  10. #10
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Honestly Dancer is fun and it brings more than enough to the table that it's not going to be pushed away especially if theres a DRG or a BLM in the party to Dance partner with.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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