When did calling PS4 players “console peasants” become acceptable?

[Vaunhause]

Well, you're on the nose about one thing: I will never believe for a second that a PC player has an inherent advantage in this game over me because of their platform. Never have, never will. The ping argument is pretty irrelevant because it's going to affect PC players too, enhancers or not. You see so many people complaining about living, say, on the east coast of the US. Would definitely be nice if they'd spread data centers out more, I'll tell ya that.

You are right about that. PC players don't get any advantages over PS4 users.

Gonna be honest chiefs, I severely disagree with both of you. I use a ping enhancer. Without it, I cannot optimally play Machinist. Even with it, I STILL cannot optimally play Ninja. I live on east coast, and I need this just to play the game optimally on some classes. It's like night and day. You two must have seriously good internet if you do live on the east coast. Or, you don't optimize.

EDIT: This is assuming you would play classes like Machinist or Ninja, ofc. Ping heavy classes. Should've made that clear.

[Vahlnir]

To be fair their post was super vague in claiming PC users have advantages because of third party software besides parsers, either make a direct point or don’t make it at all.

You made a false assumption based off of vague information then. That doesn't make it any better.

[RareItems]

This is an inconceivable level of falsehood, but a perfect example of a troublesome superiority complex rooted in non-existant variables.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more 3rd party apps out there other than Parsers and mods lol. Most of them generally used by ppl who do "Endgame Content".

Remember FFXI's Windower/Lua Files/Gearswap? Your gear automatically changes depending on your action? I would not be surprised if there's a program like this that exists out there for FFXIV, where it automatically executes actions depending on situations. Only players who play the hardest of content would need such tools.

That's why they don't like PS4 Players. They know PS4 cannot run 3rd party apps so they look down upon them.

[Hash_Browns]

Gonna be honest chiefs, I severely disagree with both of you. I use a ping enhancer. Without it, I cannot optimally play Machinist. Even with it, I STILL cannot optimally play Ninja. I live on east coast, and I need this just to play the game optimally on some classes. It's like night and day. You two must have seriously good internet if you do live on the east coast. Or, you don't optimize.

See now, that's kind of a grey area to me. If you don't need a ping enhancer then it really doesn't matter what you play on. I see your point though.

[galbsadi]

The answer is....when they became console peasants. :P

(Jokes aside, I've literally never heard somebody call someone on PS4 a 'console peasant' in this game before this thread...and I've been playing since 2.0.)

[Vaunhause]

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more 3rd party apps out there other than Parsers and mods lol. Most of them generally used by ppl who do "Endgame Content".

Remember FFXI's Windower/Lua Files/Gearswap? Your gear automatically changes depending on your action? I would not be surprised if there's a program like this that exists out there for FFXIV, where it automatically executes actions depending on situations. Only players who play the hardest of content would need such tools.

That's why they don't like PS4 Players. They know PS4 cannot run 3rd party apps so they look down upon them.

I dont think many people actually use those tools because they're unnecessary. If you need a crutch like that to play the game, the chances are you are not actually savage raiding at an above average level, or a top tier player at that.

[SerLuke]

Sorry to burst your bubble but there are more 3rd party apps out there other than Parsers and mods lol. Most of them generally used by ppl who do "Endgame Content".

Remember FFXI's Windower/Lua Files/Gearswap? Your gear automatically changes depending on your action? I would not be surprised if there's a program like this that exists out there for FFXIV, where it automatically executes actions depending on situations. Only players who play the hardest of content would need such tools.

That's why they don't like PS4 Players. They know PS4 cannot run 3rd party apps so they look down upon them.

How is what you are describing not blatantly cheating?

[Vaunhause]

How is what you are describing not blatantly cheating?

I would say it classifies as cheating, tbh. And to that extent, I'm seriously certain that world first raiders never even use programs such as that. If they're so impaired that they have to use crutch programs to apply certain actions or do actions for them, then they probably are not able to play the game properly, because at that point, how do you improvise or adjust to different situations? That's just the thing-- you can't.

[LiteBrite]

You are right about that. PC players don't get any advantages over PS4 users.

Except for being allowed to break the rules and use parseres. Unlike ps4 users...

[RareItems]

I’m on a PS4 Pro so nope, I’m not using any programs, and I don’t raid either, and I haven’t looked into them either so I guess I am naive?

Naive, yes. But if you don't raids or do EX trials then why would you care? lol. Nobody cares if you play FFXIV on a barely running PS4 while doing MSQ roulletes xD. I'm not even sure if Endgame content players do MSQ roulletes.