When did calling PS4 players “console peasants” become acceptable?

[Demetri_Delethorn]

PC players will always going to be better than PS4 Players mainly because of 3rd Party Apps. And I'm not just talking about parser apps lol xD.

This is an inconceivable level of falsehood, but a perfect example of a troublesome superiority complex rooted in non-existant variables.

[SerLuke]

The “I’m a PS4 player whose better than 99% of PC player” thing is silly too like seriously who freaking cares? Are you having fun? Are they having fun? Good cause that’s all that matters

[SerLuke]

PC players will always going to be better than PS4 Players mainly because of 3rd Party Apps. And I'm not just talking about parser apps lol xD.

Are you admitting to botting? On the forums?

[Demetri_Delethorn]

Are you admitting to botting? On the forums?

They're admitting far more than that if you ask me. Seeking to divide is never the answer.

[Scavish]

Are you going to explain how you know you outperform other people or not?

[Demetri_Delethorn]

Are you going to explain how you know you outperform other people or not?

Once again, I state that I outperform 99% of the people I play with. Not 99% of PC players, not 99% of PS4 players, 99% of MY personal experience. This is a very, very tiny number of users. For that reason alone, I suggest you stop getting so riled up.

I know I outperform them because, as a healer, I watch them die to mechanic after mechanic without adapting or learning, I watch people not know their rotations, I watch parties disband time after time. I don't need a tool that is against the ToS to tell me I'm outperforming someone. 99% of 100, after all, is still only 99 people in a game filled with millions.

So please, leave me be.

edit: as an addendum, my whole point is that PS4 players not by default bad at the game. people must stop thinking this way.

[Scavish]

I'm not riled up at all, I was just curious. I think you misunderstood my intentions as to why I was asking because I genuinely had no idea. Thanks for clarifying.

Anyway, I think PC players do have a slight advantage because of things such as the MMO mice, 144hz monitors, higher FPS, etc. but I don't think people on console are hindered or bad at all. I think playing on PC does let you go above and beyond if you want though.

[HyoMinPark]

Once again, I state that I outperform 99% of the people I play with. Not 99% of PC players, not 99% of PS4 players, 99% of MY personal experience. This is a very, very tiny number of users. For that reason alone, I suggest you stop getting so riled up.

I know I outperform them because, as a healer, I watch them die to mechanic after mechanic without adapting or learning, I watch people not know their rotations, I watch parties disband time after time. I don't need a tool that is against the ToS to tell me I'm outperforming someone. 99% of 100, after all, is still only 99 people in a game filled with millions.

So please, leave me be.

That's a display of mechanical awareness, but not of numbers. Though, it's not unheard of for healers to be the highest damage dealer in a trap party... However. Most statements of "I outperfrom x% of players I meet" usually infers number performances. Not mechanics awareness. Not that mechanic awareness is bad to have (it's not), but that's the basis of most declarations like the one you made. Hence why people were asking for proof (in the form of numbers).

[Vaunhause]

This is an inconceivable level of falsehood, but a perfect example of a troublesome superiority complex rooted in non-existant variables.

Yeah, you're right. It's not just because of third party apps; though the parser does help to theory craft and such. The things that aren't the parser are more so crutches like reminders of when x pops up, or so and such, or ping enhancers.

But I'd say it's mostly the stable FPS at 60 (which actually matters a lot, not saying PS4 pro can't reach it.) or higher, which can allow pc players to reach a higher ceiling, or things like a 144hz monitor, which is actually a pretty substantial difference in terms of reaction timing and inputs. Better fps responds better to inputs, being able to actually reach and see that fps lets you respond faster, and let's the inputs go in faster, due to severely low keyboard to monitor latency and such.

This is mostly what I had learned, but from what I could tell, it really is substantiated in truth. I learned this a while ago, but it's a fact.

And just to be perfectly clear: There are really good ps4 raiders. I don't think ANYONE can deny that, since they clearly exist. But I personally believe they cannot reach world first unless they live next to the servers w/ really good internet. Ping enhancers, system optimizers... that kind of stuff. Configuring, optimizing and bettering tcp connections and routes is what prob gives PC the biggest advantage. We all know that, the lower your ping, the better you can perform. 'Course that doesn't mean you will perform better.

But really. Theres no real point to this thread anymore after whats already been said and done as I see it, it's all done and dry, theres nothing left to discuss, the only thing thats left to discuss is whether or not people are in denial that PC players actually generally have an advantage due to hardware and software. But you can't argue it; its a fact.

What you can argue though is that if that actually makes you a good player or not... But that sounds pointless to me.

Are you admitting to botting? On the forums?

They're admitting far more than that if you ask me. Seeking to divide is never the answer.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but mates. I think they're talking about ping enhancers.

[SerLuke]

Yeah, you're right. It's not just because of third party apps; though the parser does help to theory craft and such. The things that aren't the parser are more so crutches like reminders of when x pops up, or so and such, or ping enhancers.

But I'd say it's mostly the stable FPS at 60 (which actually matters a lot, not saying PS4 pro can't reach it.) or higher, which can allow pc players to reach a higher ceiling, or things like a 144hz monitor, which is actually a pretty substantial difference in terms of reaction timing and inputs. Better fps responds better to inputs, being able to actually reach and see that fps lets you respond faster, and let's the inputs go in faster, due to severely low keyboard to monitor latency and such.

This is mostly what I had learned, but from what I could tell, it really is substantiated in truth. I learned this a while ago, but it's a fact.

And just to be perfectly clear: There are really good ps4 raiders. I don't think ANYONE can deny that, since they clearly exist. But I personally believe they cannot reach world first unless they live next to the servers w/ really good internet. Ping enhancers, system optimizers... that kind of stuff. Configuring, optimizing and bettering tcp connections and routes is what prob gives PC the biggest advantage. We all know that, the lower your ping, the better you can perform. 'Course that doesn't mean you will perform better.

But really. Theres no real point to this thread anymore after whats already been said and done as I see it, it's all done and dry, theres nothing left to discuss, the only thing thats left to discuss is whether or not people are in denial that PC players actually generally have an advantage due to hardware and software. But you can't argue it; its a fact.

What you can argue though is that if that actually makes you a good player or not... But that sounds pointless to me.







I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but mates. I think they're talking about ping enhancers.

I’m not sure what that is