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  1. #131
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    For the same reason people with pimped cars put their music at +110 decibel and put their windows down (even in winter), bumperdriving and love to let everybody heir their V12 motors.

    For me it's just personal preference, I own a PS4 pro & Nintendo Switch but those are primairly for the exclusive games on both platforms. I'm mainly a PC player because I have keyboard and mouse, but most importantly because I have higher resolutions on much much higher refresh rates.

    Like I'm playing Fire Emblem Three Houses right now (one of my fav IP's) and even though it's turn based my eye twitches everytime there's framerate drops and they happen a lot.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  2. #132
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    Demetri_Delethorn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    PC players have a large advantage over PS4 Players.
    Then why do I outperform 99% of PC players I see?

    Oh, wait. It's because there isn't an inherent advantage.
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  3. #133
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    You can find it in the thread about PS4 players wanting a parse. Only time I saw mention of console peasants and they haven't deleted any posts either from what I've seen.

    While they weren't the nicest in their delivery, they are correct though in that people choose to use a platform of their own choice, that doesn't support what they want, so something they have to live with.

    Pretty much it really, I just think some people need to thicken their skin some. PC Master Race and Console Peasants has been a funny tit and tat back and forth for so many years now, am just shocked people get offended by it. Personally I'm a majority PC master race, since quite hard to go back to sub 60 FPS and 144hz after being exposed to it for so long, strains the eyes since they were being spoiled. But I still enjoy my 3DS and Switch, don't own any other consoles though anymore.
    I agree. PC Master Race and Console Peasants is just funny.
    Also, I have to share. Flashgitz have 3 videos about Concole War, 1 from Xbox point of view and 1 from PlayStation's. Then we have the third video where PC Master Race enters.
    I do find them hilarious.
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  4. #134
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    Ameliana Desalian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Then why do I outperform 99% of PC players I see?

    Oh, wait. It's because there isn't an inherent advantage.
    Agreed. If you're having a problem it's not because the other guy has some tool that you don't. It is solely on you.

    I *hate* when people say: "PC gamers have an advantage because of parsers/overlays/mods."

    1. That denigrates everyone who plays on PC. I bust my hump to get my rotations down, to train and retrain my muscle memory to follow the new layouts.

    2. I don't use parsers/overlays/mods. I do it the same way a PS4 player does. I have no advantage that they don't. And I'm blowing you away... Why? Real skill. Real practice. Not blaming my shortcomings on stuff I don't have.

    I don't have a top end rig that can run the game at 160 fps at 1080p on a 40 inch monitor.

    I have an entry level rig that is a bit old. It's got an SSD and an older video card it runs the game usually at around 60 fps. It drops a little in cities if enough people get on screen.

    Yet, these people would have you believe that I got good through parsers (Nope. Don't use 'em and I opt out of being parsed.) Overlays (Nope.) Mods (Nope.) Or Automatic Macros. (Again, nope. I do have a macro in the game though... It puts: "Hi! I'm Ame, I'll be your tank today. Would y'all like big pulls or small pulls?" And a second button in case it's my first time in a dungeon/trial that says, "This is my first time in this dungeon, if there are any mechanics that I need to know, please tell me. Thank you! Let's try to have fun.")

    That's such an advantage. It totally alters my gameplay.

    /fume
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    Last edited by HWalsh; 07-28-2019 at 07:05 AM.

  5. #135
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    You can find it in the thread about PS4 players wanting a parse. Only time I saw mention of console peasants and they haven't deleted any posts either from what I've seen.

    While they weren't the nicest in their delivery, they are correct though in that people choose to use a platform of their own choice, that doesn't support what they want, so something they have to live with.

    Pretty much it really, I just think some people need to thicken their skin some. PC Master Race and Console Peasants has been a funny tit and tat back and forth for so many years now, am just shocked people get offended by it. Personally I'm a majority PC master race, since quite hard to go back to sub 60 FPS and 144hz after being exposed to it for so long, strains the eyes since they were being spoiled. But I still enjoy my 3DS and Switch, don't own any other consoles though anymore.
    I get that it started as a joke/meme back in 2008, the thing is jokes get old after a while and typically the only people who continue joke that poke fun at other people after 10 years are people that actually believe it.... like take the guy earlier in the thread going "and this is why we call you guys console peasants" using it unironically as a personal insult. I used forums back during the PS2/GCN/Xbox console wars and it was stupid and annoying back then too, I really don't get or understand the humor in emulating kids fighting about whose toy is better. But like I said, many times its used unironically because people actually believe it. I'm well, well, well, aware that PC offers a better experience if you can build the right rig, I prefer playing on consoles, I don't fault people who don't though. I just wish we could all chill and enjoy Final Fantasy together =/
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    Last edited by SerLuke; 07-28-2019 at 07:15 AM.

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Then why do I outperform 99% of PC players I see?

    Oh, wait. It's because there isn't an inherent advantage.
    How do you know you do, if can't provide said proof of your claims?

    If you want to keep it to the hardware aspect. I can see more then a console player, at higher fidelity and better response time with with more clarity of my surroundings. I also have more control options as well, the list can actually go on quite extensively.

    And this is just a minor taste of advantages without anything 3rd party. I personally stick to PC since enjoy the higher FPS, and above mentioned features which make the game run so much better and far easier on my eyes. I did try and play it on PS4 Pro, phew.. During some instances, actually had eye strain as it chugged to try and keep up at 60 FPS under certain conditions, any occupied town tanked it into the 30's or lower. At least on PC I can counter that by upgrading, though I feel I won't need to upgrade anytime soon hardware wise.

    I mean, once you've experienced a 144hz monitor and FPS that scales high enough to use it, going back to something like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btzEfyyFKcg Isn't actually that fun on the eyes at all..
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    How do you know you do, if can't provide said proof of your claims?
    Oh come on, get over yourself.

    The guy's clearing content right? That's all that matters.

    Yes, you have a good rig, congratulations.

    Not everyone else does. You've got disposable income. Awesome. Not everyone does.

    I have an older introductory gaming rig.

    I also have hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills and am stuck in a wheelchair. I should HOPE you've got a better rig.

    Constantly bragging on your rig and how awesome it is isn't adding anything to this conversation. Check your hubris at the door already.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    Oh come on, get over yourself.

    The guy's clearing content right? That's all that matters.

    Yes, you have a good rig, congratulations.

    Not everyone else does. You've got disposable income. Awesome. Not everyone does.

    I have an older introductory gaming rig.

    I also have hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills and am stuck in a wheelchair. I should HOPE you've got a better rig.

    Constantly bragging on your rig and how awesome it is isn't adding anything to this conversation. Check your hubris at the door already.
    Hey, you make claims, provide evidence, simple as that. It's not bragging to state facts. You may feel it is, but the truth is truth, simple as that. I even say I play on consoles, but ya know what I don't do? Make claims without being open to debate or without facts.

    Until a console can reach 70+ FPS at 4k for me, letting me scale it down to 2k or 1080 for higher FPS for comfort, then no, I do not think they are superior in any way.
    I wasn't the one trying to insult around here, I mean heck, their post is a bragging post of how superior they are... Give me a break..

    https://i.imgur.com/n43hED1.jpg And no, not using the img tag since too large for forums.

    When consoles can do that, then I'll admit their cost to performance ratio for certain games is worthwhile. To me they are not as they stand now, simple facts shouldn't hurt.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    Oh come on, get over yourself.

    The guy's clearing content right? That's all that matters.

    Yes, you have a good rig, congratulations.

    Not everyone else does. You've got disposable income. Awesome. Not everyone does.

    I have an older introductory gaming rig.

    I also have hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills and am stuck in a wheelchair. I should HOPE you've got a better rig.

    Constantly bragging on your rig and how awesome it is isn't adding anything to this conversation. Check your hubris at the door already.
    I say we just ignore the dude. Folks should consider an optometrist if their eyes are straining. As for proof, it's not like I have to prove anything to anyone in this thread. I can see who's on PC and PS4, and I always check when I do a farm party/raid. I watch myself outperform them because I'm good at the game, and occasionally, PC players and other PS4 folks will outperform me. It'll never be based on hardware. Ever.

    Like, I'm sorry his PS4 Pro wasn't hitting 60fps (most folks who crap on consoles have never actually tried one). I'm sorry he thinks that somehow, he has better response times based on hardware (lol). It's just hilarious, when you think about it.

    So yeah, I'm with you HWalsh. They literally can't handle the fact that we can be good at the game too just because we're on PS4.
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    Last edited by Demetri_Delethorn; 07-28-2019 at 07:31 AM.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Consider an optometrist if your eyes are straining. As for proof, I have nothing to prove to you nor anyone in the thread. I can see who's on PC and PS4, and I always check when I do a farm party/raid. I watch myself outperform them because I'm good at the game, and occasionally, PC players and other PS4 folks will outperform me. It'll never be based on hardware. Ever.

    I'm sorry your PS4 Pro wasn't hitting 60fps. I'm sorry you think that you, somehow, have better response times based on your hardware (lol). Most of all, I feel pretty crummy for myself for being baited into responding to this.
    If you've nothing to prove, then quit stating you're superior. And it's common, proven, FACT... That anyone can tell the difference between a smooth 144hz or higher vs a 60 FPS setup. Why do you think that consoles are trying their best to maintain 60 from their previous 30? It's a better gaming experiences, with less eye strain(another fact) and smoother gaming.

    Another proven fact, better response time with superior hardware. Less input lag, higher visibility, the list goes on. I wasn't the one who started the superior stance, you did. Get used to getting called out when you do.
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