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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    Now is the chance to get some answers, post your questions in the LL thread and ask for what you think might be an engaging addition or change to your favorite job(s).
    They specifically asked not to provide any feedback on skills since they already probably finalized 5.05 changes and want the feedback on their changes, not the current skill set. I'm afraid any such questions will be outright ignored until 5.05 hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    They specifically asked not to provide any feedback on skills since they already probably finalized 5.05 changes and want the feedback on their changes, not the current skill set. I'm afraid any such questions will be outright ignored until 5.05 hits.
    Whilst I'd normally say "that's reasonable" to that. But if the question relates to something that has nothing to do with the changes they make, then it's still a valid question. I just don't see them making fundamental changes that are needed in a patch, especially so early but if they make me eat my words and surprise me on this, I'll be happy and be less of a naysayer in future. But they've never done the big changes in patch, only expansions.

    What the changes may address is things like the disparity between AST's ability to heal and SCH/WHM's abilities to heal as there is a bad there and this can be changed with tweaks.
    What changes I doubt they'd address is how the 3 healers play in content, why people are saying they're bored or don't like playing healers anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    Whilst I'd normally say "that's reasonable" to that. But if the question relates to something that has nothing to do with the changes they make, then it's still a valid question. I just don't see them making fundamental changes that are needed in a patch, especially so early but if they make me eat my words and surprise me on this, I'll be happy and be less of a naysayer in future. But they've never done the big changes in patch, only expansions.

    What the changes may address is things like the disparity between AST's ability to heal and SCH/WHM's abilities to heal as there is a bad there and this can be changed with tweaks.
    What changes I doubt they'd address is how the 3 healers play in content, why people are saying they're bored or don't like playing healers anymore.
    I wouldn't quite say 'never.'

    I remember 4.0 and what they did to us (Scholars) then, and they did fix it in 4.05 (arguably, even went to far and made us a bit too powerful). I'll at least give them that shot....I mean, what's two more days, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    I wouldn't quite say 'never.'

    I remember 4.0 and what they did to us (Scholars) then, and they did fix it in 4.05 (arguably, even went to far and made us a bit too powerful). I'll at least give them that shot....I mean, what's two more days, right?
    4.05 tweaked abilities so timers and potencies were better as well as adjusting range of certain abilities, rather than fundamental changes to how the job plays. That kind of thing ties with what I said for my expectations, except my comment used what AST needed that they'd likely tweak as an example.

    But SE has historically only left the fundamental changes or made any needed reworks at the point of expansion. EG by the end of Stormblood MCH had all the right balance and numbers and in terms of balance and DPS it was in a good place, but why people hated it and complained was never addressed until ShB because it needed some pretty fundamental changes for people to enjoy it. I feel that is where we are with healers. Whilst I accept there is the very slim chance SE make an exception to the rule, but given a long history of playing this game and issues certain jobs have had during that time, I've yet to see any exception to the rule.


    It's not that I don't think they won't fix issues. It's more I don't think the kind of fixes that come in patches would be enough. If healers are well balanced, it's not going to address the majority of the complaints coming out of the healer forums.

    That said, I am happy if SE make me eat my own words and surprise us and say "here are some major reworks to healing that address your complaints" because then I win. WHM has already waited years for it, MCH waited a whole expansion, BRD waited a whole expansion, MNK is now 2 expansions in with core complaints about how the job plays not being address (and were led to believe they were), PLD got their's after an expansion, SCH being OP has been something since HW and IMO what has led to it being boring. To boot, with healers, it seems there is little communication going around in regards to them.
    So you can see why I am sceptical.
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