Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Cincierta]

While trying to get back into the swing of things as whm, I went into Sohm Al Hard and got a semi-decent war tank that would eat aoes. Final boss they stood in the lava and died to a tankbuster. I ended up giving them credit since they too were getting back into tanking, though I could tell behind that screen they and the dps were seething at me for trying to juggle healing, dotting and dpsing.

Went leveling roulette and got put into normal Sohm Al, had a gnb tank that tried to mass pull the hallway up to the first boss and ran into poison pods without a cooldown. Needless to say they went squish fast when I tried to heal them, followed by me. Tank admitted it was their fault, though I could tell it was truly mine since apparently everyone has high expectations of healers nowadays.

Second boss neither of the dps went after the chyme except for the tank and I, it went off, and I barely had enough hp left, only to die to a blue stack marker immediately afterwards. Third boss the rdm somehow dies to chaos blast, probably because they stood in aoes and didn't move out of it. I don't think I ever saw a veraero II or verthunder II out of them the entire dungeon.

Maybe I should just give up healing and go dps instead. *sigh*

Edit: just got out of another roulette as healer, had a drk in totorak that thought it was a good idea to facepull past the sticky web walls, leaving the me, the healer, behind. They died for their trouble, along with the arcanist that came in wearing lvl 5 gear. I don't remember the tank using a defensive cooldown at all. They also would also walk up to the poison pods and just eat the damage. I ended up comming the sprout blm because they were actually smart enough to not run ahead.

[TheMightyMollusk]

O9 in raid roulette. Healers get the stack markers....and stack them together, killing themselves and two of the DPS. Third DPS declares a wipe and runs off the edge, leaving me (on bard) and the tanks (paladin and dark knight). We keep going anyway, and get Chaos down to around ten percent (complete with the rarely-seen bard LB3) before he cycles back into lightning phase and another pair of stack markers come up. With two seconds left on Troubador's CD, the DRK and I eat the floor. Paladin proceeds to finish the fight solo. Guess where my comm went.

[TheRealQuah]

When can we get minimum ilvl for levelling dungeons. It is seriously needed. I just queued into Holminster as a DNC. Having 20k health more than the tank made me concerned. He was wearing full 290 left side. Healer was wearing Ala Mhigan gear and a 345 eureka weapon, and the RDM was wearing a mix of 385 and 365 gear, but with a 330 weapon. After taking 25 minutes to get to the end of the first boss, which included the tank getting 1 shotted by the unavoidable raidwide damage, I had to leave and take the penalty. Oh and the tank was a "mentor"

[VillainQueen]

When can we get minimum ilvl for levelling dungeons. It is seriously needed. I just queued into Holminster as a DNC. Having 20k health more than the tank made me concerned. He was wearing full 290 left side. Healer was wearing Ala Mhigan gear and a 345 eureka weapon, and the RDM was wearing a mix of 385 and 365 gear, but with a 330 weapon. After taking 25 minutes to get to the end of the first boss, which included the tank getting 1 shotted by the unavoidable raidwide damage, I had to leave and take the penalty. Oh and the tank was a "mentor"

I don't mean to offend but Holminster is still the first dungeon and some people are new to Shb and go through the MSQ, I think you can't expect everyone to be at a high gear level for the starter dungeon...

[TheRealQuah]

I don't mean to offend but Holminster is still the first dungeon and some people are new to Shb and go through the MSQ, I think you can't expect everyone to be at a high gear level for the starter dungeon...

290 gear is what you get prior to completing Stormblood. It's over 2 years old. It was 40 items levels below the best gear you could get in 4.0.

If you are new to shadowbringers, the game gives you a full set of HQ 385 gear before the dungeon.

Of course these people were not new and had multiple 80 characters AND MENTOR STATUS.

Please don't attempt to defend terrible players and incredibly irresponsible practices.

[Crushnight]

When can we get minimum ilvl for levelling dungeons. It is seriously needed. I just queued into Holminster as a DNC. Having 20k health more than the tank made me concerned. He was wearing full 290 left side. Healer was wearing Ala Mhigan gear and a 345 eureka weapon, and the RDM was wearing a mix of 385 and 365 gear, but with a 330 weapon. After taking 25 minutes to get to the end of the first boss, which included the tank getting 1 shotted by the unavoidable raidwide damage, I had to leave and take the penalty. Oh and the tank was a "mentor"

I seriously hope they get asked one of the questions regarding this issue in the next live letter, you were a saint compared to me i would've noped outta there by 1st mobs.

290 gear is what you get prior to completing Stormblood. It's over 2 years old. It was 40 items levels below the best gear you could get in 4.0.

If you are new to shadowbringers, the game gives you a full set of HQ 385 gear before the dungeon.

Of course these people were not new and had multiple 80 characters AND MENTOR STATUS.

Please don't attempt to defend terrible players and incredibly irresponsible practices.

^ exactly

290 is vastly inferior to normal quality 385 vendor gear there is no excuse to be that undergeared they were lazy and shouldn't be allowed to enter in that state but for some unfathomable reason ilv 1 gear is perfectly acceptable to enter things like Mt.Gulg.

[Mavrias]

I don't mean to offend but Holminster is still the first dungeon and some people are new to Shb and go through the MSQ, I think you can't expect everyone to be at a high gear level for the starter dungeon...

The MSQ gives you gear coffers. Theres no excuse to be wearing sub 385 in holminster.

[VillainQueen]

The MSQ gives you gear coffers. Theres no excuse to be wearing sub 385 in holminster.

Maybe they were leveling alt classes? You just get it once for the class you play... I just think if the first dungeon I'm more forgiven and the expansion is still new. If they pull stuff like that in later dungeons I would be as angry about it but yeah, maybe I'm just too forgiving in that regard.

[HyoMinPark]

I don't mean to offend but Holminster is still the first dungeon and some people are new to Shb and go through the MSQ, I think you can't expect everyone to be at a high gear level for the starter dungeon...

The MSQ gives you coffers for free HQ i385 gear, so using the MSQ argument doesn't really fly here when the developers make it give you free upgrades. i390 Scavaen gear costs poetics now, which are super easy to farm or if you have 2,000 laying around because they're even easier to cap. i290 is Stormblood artifact gear. The game should not allow players in gear that is 2 years old to queue into 5.0 content with it equipped. Just like it shouldn't allow players to queue into Sirensong in HW i200 AF.

It's one thing to be slightly* undergeared on alt jobs (since these were clearly not first timers) - and I mean slightly as in no lower than i375 Alliance gear/i380 Alphascape normal mode gear. It's another to be in gear that's almost 100 item levels lower than what the dungeon drops.

Maybe they were leveling alt classes? You just get it once for the class you play... I just think if the first dungeon I'm more forgiven and the expansion is still new. If they pull stuff like that in later dungeons I would be as angry about it but yeah, maybe I'm just too forgiving in that regard.

i390 Scaevan gear costs poetics now, and is stupidly easy to obtain with light farming. There is no excuse to show up in i290 artifact gear in 5.0 content.

[Deathgiver]

How exactly are facts "rude"? He wasn't ready for the dungeon, he should have better prepared before trying to ruin other player's experiences. I came prepared, the mentor came prepared, so why exactly can't the healer come prepared - while playing such a critical role? I will not change my playstyle to baby a player who refuses to actually prepare for the dungeon they are queuing for, and actually this healer healed well all things considered. I had a healer in full scaevan do worse, same class. We only wiped once, all I was saying was he needed to get new gear. I wasn't being "rude" at all.

I did more actual "mentoring" than the mentor.

For example, when I am severely undergeared on a class because I leveled it through HoH or something... I don't queue dungeons I am not geared for! If I want to do a dungeon I will think of others and come prepared!

I know this is an "old" post being from yesterday and all, but you are greatly exaggerating how under-geared the healer actually was. The max ilvl gear you can get prior to bardam is crafted 273 gear, the difference between full shire and 273 gear is less than 8% total healing/dps output. I'm not sure you have a clear understanding of how the leveling gear between expansions actually scales.