SE needs to do more to help bad players

[Komarimono]

If the Healers DPS is what prevented the enrage, the DPS didn't deserve the clear.

So much this, since all fights are designed around healers just healing.

[Paladinleeds]

So much this, since all fights are designed around healers just healing.

While this is true, this is assuming that all players are at the minimum item level for the encounter. Now when you're below the minimum item level (quite normal for statics btw and Savage raids), that healer DPS can indeed make the difference between a clear or no clear.

[Komarimono]

While this is true, this is assuming that all players are at the minimum item level for the encounter. Now when you're below the minimum item level (quite normal for statics btw and Savage raids), that healer DPS can indeed make the difference between a clear or no clear.

All encounters are balanced around the minimum iLevel as well. Hence better gear making it easier and easier as more people get the better gear. If you're below the minimum you can't even enter, so uh... Hmm...

[Paladinleeds]

All encounters are balanced around the minimum iLevel as well. Hence better gear making it easier and easier as more people get the better gear. If you're below the minimum you can't even enter, so uh... Hmm...

Incorrect. If you're a full premade, you can enter below minimum item level. Now if you're pulling even one random from DF then yes you must all meet the minimum itemlevel. Also, my phrasing said that the encounter is balanced around everyone at minimum item level (the "this is assuming that all players are at the minimum item level for the counter" part). But trust me, full premades can enter below minimum itemlevel for dungeons and trials. On the duty finder window, for most duties it'll say something like "Role and item level restrictions are lifted for premade parties".

[Komarimono]

Incorrect. If you're a full premade, you can enter below minimum item level. Now if you're pulling even one random from DF then yes you must all meet the minimum itemlevel. Also, my phrasing said that the encounter is balanced around everyone at minimum item level (the "this is assuming that all players are at the minimum item level for the counter" part). But trust me, full premades can enter below minimum itemlevel for dungeons and trials. On the duty finder window, for most duties it'll say something like "Role and item level restrictions are lifted for premade parties".

While true, doesn't change that's how the instance is balanced though -_^ If you wish to enter below the recommended ilevel, by all means. But I'm not even sure if that's possible due to ease of access to gear lol.

So, doesn't help the argument of healers going pew pew and gear being low, since balanced around no pew pew and a certain ilevel. So again, if people are hitting enrage, it's based on lack of DPS from DPS, "Standing in Fire", and lack of awareness then.