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    Quote Originally Posted by Eunys View Post
    Yawn... Taking a few individuals, and associating them with all Americans.
    9.99 EUR = 977.874 JPY
    9.99 USD = 768.980 JPY
    6.89 GBP = 818.156 JPY

    Exchange rates for the 3 currencies talked about, you think someone would be upset they are paying less? when you go to a shop and a shelf says something costs say £2, and you get it for £1 you complain????

    I know I wouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    9.99 EUR = 977.874 JPY
    9.99 USD = 768.980 JPY
    6.89 GBP = 818.156 JPY

    Exchange rates for the 3 currencies talked about, you think someone would be upset they are paying less? when you go to a shop and a shelf says something costs say £2, and you get it for £1 you complain????

    I know I wouldnt.
    EU paying more then NA customers =/= NA getting a discount. It means people in the EU are being overcharged. So yes it's perfectly reasonable for people in the USA to feel bad for EU players. Get off your high horse with the whole Americans are this Americans are that. Your turned an issue of SE ramming it up your rear into a problem with the US players? Pretty retarded I'd say.

    To prove your whole Americans are happy with EU paying more BS, I am American and I do find it very wrong that this is a common practice within the Online Gaming Community. Trying to play country vs country won't fix anything, for that you have to call your government representatives and pressure them to intervene in this issue.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eunys View Post
    EU paying more then NA customers =/= NA getting a discount. It means people in the EU are being overcharged. So yes it's perfectly reasonable for people in the USA to feel bad for EU players. Get off your high horse with the whole Americans are this Americans are that. Your turned an issue of SE ramming it up your rear into a problem with the US players? Pretty retarded I'd say.

    To prove your whole Americans are happy with EU paying more BS, I am American and I do find it very wrong that this is a common practice within the Online Gaming Community. Trying to play country vs country won't fix anything, for that you have to call your government representatives and pressure them to intervene in this issue.
    No I know its a fact of life, the UK has a strong currency, so we pay more for alot of things take a PS3, if I can get one in US for $300 I am paying 1.5x more when I buy one in UK for £300, I am saying americans are effectively paying less for the same product when converted into Yen than EU (inc. UK) I arent complaining but wouldnt mind it changed, I just know most people would see it and say "Oh well I am paying less", and you are paying less because the money is converted to Yen by SE/ultimate pay/C&B etc and goes to thier head office so they get more money from EU than other places.

    I am mearly stating a fact that americans are paying less, it has always been that way and always will be because the UK has about the strongest currency in the world, and probably will do for a long time. I'm just thankful they didnt do a 1:1 ratio because I would be paying 1,185.91 yen, a whopping 400 yen more which would be really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    No I know its a fact of life, the UK has a strong currency, so we pay more for alot of things take a PS3, if I can get one in US for $300 I am paying 1.5x more when I buy one in UK for £300, I am saying americans are effectively paying less for the same product when converted into Yen than EU (inc. UK) I arent complaining but wouldnt mind it changed, I just know most people would see it and say "Oh well I am paying less", and you are paying less because the money is converted to Yen by SE/ultimate pay/C&B etc and goes to thier head office so they get more money from EU than other places.

    I am mearly stating a fact that americans are paying less, it has always been that way and always will be because the UK has about the strongest currency in the world, and probably will do for a long time. I'm just thankful they didnt do a 1:1 ratio because I would be paying 1,185.91 yen, a whopping 400 yen more which would be really bad.
    It is a lot more complicated than that. I would go into the boring economic reasons, but that counter intuitive to my and your time. You don't pay the same price we do on a lot of products. But generally, it is the same price as we pay, just reflected in your currency. The price difference on this game is barley noticeable.

    You should find out if there is a tax being placed on this game that you don't know of that is increases your price. That isn't controllable by neither SE or America. Sorry you feel like Americans are pulling a **** move on you, but I ensure you; we are not doing anything conspiratorial towards you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan
    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePie View Post
    It is a lot more complicated than that. I would go into the boring economic reasons, but that counter intuitive to my and your time. You don't pay the same price we do on a lot of products. But generally, it is the same price as we pay, just reflected in your currency. The price difference on this game is barley noticeable.

    You should find out if there is a tax being placed on this game that you don't know of that is increases your price. That isn't controllable by neither SE or America. Sorry you feel like Americans are pulling a **** move on you, but I ensure you; we are not doing anything conspiratorial towards you.
    I aren't saying anyone is doing anything, the exchange rate is why we pay more, and I know I pay VAT at 20% which puts the price up a bit,.but then there is the exchange rate which is the main reason, I said it before you are trying to twist my words making me look like the bad guy.
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    Exchange rates don't mean anything. You aren't paying in USD then JPY. Like I said, there is a reason why some places may pay more. Tariffs are a big reason some countries pay more. I would almost like to assume there is the "base" amount, the JPY as the standard for what they charge, and then SE adds on whatever it costs them to give the customer the service. There isn't any other plausible reason. It isn't like they throw darts on a board to figure out how much they are going to charge one currency over the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan
    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakiMakaa View Post
    The thing is, those services advertise with exactly the currency you will be paying. On lodestone I'm being told I pay $9,99 for 1 month of subscribing, yet I have to pay €9,99 when I arrive at the payment screen. That is false advertising right there.
    I think this is because of how Lodestone does its language settings. Some browsers have "US English" as a separate option from "English" so if "US English" is higher priority voila lodestone acts like you are in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eunys View Post
    It would help if you understood what you are posting. This in no way ties to what is going on here. What is happening is crap and nobody will deny that, but because there are no laws on digital access rights, the companies like SE and other online access services can get away with it.
    Here is to help you understand

    The fact of the matter is that he is quoted to pay in US $, not in Euros. If you have ever traveled abroad and used your credit card, you would obviously know that: There is always an option to pay in local currency or in you CC's home currency; the exchange rate is adjusted by your bank, and the CC processing company, based on the current exchange rates.
    It's as simple as the following example: Let's say $1 US = 1 Euro, and you get quoted to pay $50,000 US in 5 month. Five months passes and in this example the Euro currency falls to $1 US = 0.5 Euro. The total amount you owe would be 100,000 Euro, if that's the currency you chose to pay with. No matter how you go about it you would still owe $50,000 US.
    It's really simple and with elementary math should not be hard to understand.
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    trade's not unified so your not getting unified payments, untils all currency is equal or there a world currency every place uses.
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