Bard in FF14 is so much like Hunter without Pet in Ragnarok Online

[Xieldras]

On the support mechanic aspect side yes, 2.0 bard was really good, tho the bow mage ticks me off.

I do not mind having lower DPS output but higher than DNC and abit lower than NIN.

I will agree that HW Bard's songs having the support elements was better than SB's 1-button-each. I enjoyed it.

[TcomJ]

I will agree that HW Bard's songs having the support elements was better than SB's 1-button-each. I enjoyed it.

Well, the patch 5.05 is tomorrow. So we will see what we get back.

Pretty sure it will just be brainless damage number.

[armandojc3]

Ya, the playstyle of all jobs for this expansion is set. Numeric changes is what follows.

[Connor]

Well, the patch 5.05 is tomorrow. So we will see what we get back.

Pretty sure it will just be brainless damage number.

I’d be extremely surprised if Bard gets anything besides maybe Apex Arrow scaling changes. It’s still very popular and has no issues with DPS, so as far as the devs are concerned there are no issues with the job currently.

I really hope I’m wrong, but after playing Bard all this time I have no faith them doing anything to it other than reinforcing the Archer aspects.

In an ideal world I’d like Requiem to return, some kind of buff added to songs, and Paean / Minne on GCD with a base MP cost (more readily available but have to sacrifice DPS and thus need to balance using the two efficiently)

[Jilliebeans]

i highly doubt we will ever going to get our utilities back in this expansion at all, it been said and done that this is the new bard play style for this expansion sadly, if there are going to be any changes they are more likely to fix the dmg but nothing else, sadly but i think we might have to wait for another expansion to see how they going to "rework" this class..

[Haxaan]

5.0 Bard is not a Bard. It is a Ranger that "sings" once every 3 minutes. Yes it does great damage now, but thematically it does not play like a Bard. It has become a very selfish dps, and to call it "support" is just laughable at this point. I'm not saying it doesn't play well, it's fun as hell... but it is not a Bard.

[battleshadow66]

Bard in this game is no more a Bard then Bard the Bowman from Lord of the Ring is a Bard...

[SpookyGhost]

One day they'll just rename Bard to Ranger and be done with it.

[Selig07]

I only started playing FFXIV a few weeks ago, so I could be wrong about this but... From what I've seen there is no point in playing Bard. They don't offer the group utility anymore and do less ranged DPS than a Machinist.

I foolishly watched a video that was pre-Shadowbringers and thought, "a ranged team utility class! Sing me up!" After leveling a Bard for a few days I then read more about htem and saw that was gutted and all that was left was a ranged DPS. Figured that would be ok I guess... I don't care for pure DPS classes but let's see how it goes. I then started to noticed Machinist are much better at rDPS than Bard.

So aside from just enjoying the "style" of the job... What is the point of playing Bard now? If you want ranged DPS, play Machinist, if you want group support, play Dancer. Am I wrong the think this?

[TcomJ]

I’d be extremely surprised if Bard gets anything besides maybe Apex Arrow scaling changes. It’s still very popular and has no issues with DPS, so as far as the devs are concerned there are no issues with the job currently.

I really hope I’m wrong, but after playing Bard all this time I have no faith them doing anything to it other than reinforcing the Archer aspects.

In an ideal world I’d like Requiem to return, some kind of buff added to songs, and Paean / Minne on GCD with a base MP cost (more readily available but have to sacrifice DPS and thus need to balance using the two efficiently)

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c8cee52472b81a


And you are right, we get literally 0. Nothing, not even QoL.

Why do they hate Bard or something?

But they add back Scholar Energy Drain and Sam Hagakure......