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    Angry_Evil's Avatar
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    Angry Evil
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    I always like this argument. "FFXIV is soooooo slooooooooow" -- says someone either playing a slow job, is low level, or isn't doing it right.
    I mean... you can take a quick peak at his fflogs to tell that even with his super slow 2s GCDs he can't press buttons right and plays SAM incorrectly.
    Meanwhile me here on my summoner double triple weaving lol and want even slower GCD...
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    Last edited by Angry_Evil; 07-23-2019 at 06:33 PM.

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    Xyr's Avatar
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    Winter Soul
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Evil View Post
    I mean... you can take a quick peak at his fflogs to tell that even with his super slow 2s GCDs he can't press buttons right and plays SAM incorrectly.
    Meanwhile me here on my summoner double triple weaving lol and want even slower GCD...
    Ah yes, the fflog argument. Yeah, my fflog of 2 eden fights where I had no idea what the boss mechanics were as I just hit lvl 80, and it was the first or second day that raid came out obviously is the perfect evidence of how great the game's combat is. That's like deciding the state of a nation based on the input of two people out of 300 million. If the game had 60s gcd on every skill, and someone who had low logs said the gcd is too long, you'd probably still say that he only feels it's long because his logs lmfao.
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    Last edited by Xyr; 07-24-2019 at 06:42 AM.

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    Reyner Blackblood
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    Ah yes, the fflog argument. Yeah, my fflog of 2 eden fights where I had no idea what the boss mechanics were as I just hit lvl 80, and it was the first or second day that raid came out obviously is the perfect evidence of how great the game's combat is. That's like deciding the state of a nation based on the input of two people out of 300 million. If the game had 60s gcd on every skill, and someone who had low logs said the gcd is too long, you'd probably still say that he only feels it's long because his logs lmfao.
    Ok you are making a terrible argument there, first you wrote that you just hit lvl 80 with SAM so that means that you dont have enough experience with the class to play it properly so if it feels like you have a long GCD is because YOU are not playing properly, that alone renders your whole point kind of worthless but moving on, second so you dont know the fight and you did poorly? not uncommon but it also implies that yo could have a more fluid (faster) feel of the GCD if you knew the fight, hence you feel the class is slow.

    So to summarize, you dont know the class well enough, you dont know the fights well enough, how do you expect to fight properlly? and yes by fighting properlly the "speed" (more the feel in reality) of the class goes up. Does this game need a faster GCD? not really if we go just by infraesctructure high ping in some jobs makes them very hard to play, if we go by player feel, most of the time there is enough shit going on in your screen to keep you bussy for a while, so slow GCD is less noticeable especially when you factor in oGCDs. Having a fast GCD will make this game better? probably not, having to hit buttons faster doesnt imply good gamplay mechanics, i mean look at ff15 you could smash that atack butting as fast as you can but it was just that, one button smash even at the highest difficulty that game was extremely boring combat wise. Pretty? yeah, but dull. So fast GCD for the sake of fast GCD is not really an improvement its not even QoL, its just pretty but dull.
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Evil View Post
    I mean... you can take a quick peak at his fflogs to tell that even with his super slow 2s GCDs he can't press buttons right and plays SAM incorrectly.
    Meanwhile me here on my summoner double triple weaving lol and want even slower GCD...
    A level 80 still complaining about the gcd is more than likely someone who bought a skip potion to 70.
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    Physic's Avatar
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    A level 80 still complaining about the gcd is more than likely someone who bought a skip potion to 70.
    gcd feels bad on many classes, it actually feels worse as more games have handled it better. This isn't really an opinion that has much to do with level or time played. i been around since 1.0, and i can say yeah it feels slow and doesn't flow well. some classes more than others. And some levels more than others, but overall, pretty slow by current standards
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