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  1. #41
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    What do they they do with all this money? That is over 2 billion dollars a year, I demand an answer!
    Weird. FFXIVcensus says there is 15.9 million characters on all worlds (which sounds like true considering that some players have alts) but only 700 thousands of them are actually active players. A bit higher in fact since Website checks for certain rewards on lodestone, but still amount of active players is probably somewhere about 1 million.

    Anyway, money FFXIV brings likely do not return back to FFXIV in a full amount. Some of them most likely goes to other projects (-cough-FFVII-remake-cough-) which means that we have budget that is lower than we could have in theory. Not like we can check any actual statistic about this, but it's definitely is not all that simple as it seems to be.
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  2. #42
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    14,000,000 active accounts and just 70 Worlds?


    And they can't add more with over 168m $ a month in "active" subs?!


    What do they they do with all this money? That is over 2 billion dollars a year, I demand an answer!
    They don't have 14m active accounts. They've had 14m unique accounts created over the games lifetime.


    Current estimates are around 800k-1mil active players.
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  3. #43
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    Roehaswys Brodansawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    What do they they do with all this money? That is over 2 billion dollars a year, I demand an answer!
    The answer simply is this: That money goes to Square Enix and not the FFXIV team. Any upgrades to infrastructure would have to be approved and budgeted for which means that it can't be done at the whims of the FFIXV team. Servers and data storage are finite resources so if they need more, they would need to get that included in an approved budget and then coordinate with IT to get it integrated with their other systems. Given how smoothly this launch went I expect that they did that since they wanted players to have a more positive experience then Stromblood.
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  4. #44
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    On Cactuar, I've never had a login queue that took longer than it took me to go get a cup of water and come back. Outside of confirmed DDoS attacks, but that's not SE's fault.
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  5. #45
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    14,000,000 active accounts and just 70 Worlds?


    And they can't add more with over 168m $ a month in "active" subs?!


    What do they they do with all this money? That is over 2 billion dollars a year, I demand an answer!
    Really curious as to why so many FFXIV players think the lifetime account creation of FFXIV is the currently active accounts number. WoW only got to 13 million active and no other MMORPG has ever come close to that number. Rest assured if FFXIV had passed it, especially in 2019, they'd be making a much bigger deal of it. It would be worth taking note of.
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  6. #46
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    Ciel Rosemont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I think you're missing the point.
    Nah, they didn't miss the point, they blew a hole straight through it. Their reply was quite appropriate when presented with a "point" as... well... pointless, as yours is.

    It's like a one to five minute wait. It's perfectly reasonable given the reality of the situation with the game, the servers, and the number of players they have. It doesn't matter that it's a sub game. "A two minute wait is unacceptable!" is an asinine thing to say.
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    Un-retired Red Mage.
    Level 51 procrastinator.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saito_S View Post
    Nah, they didn't miss the point, they blew a hole straight through it. Their reply was quite appropriate when presented with a "point" as... well... pointless, as yours is.

    It's like a one to five minute wait. It's perfectly reasonable given the reality of the situation with the game, the servers, and the number of players they have. It doesn't matter that it's a sub game. "A two minute wait is unacceptable!" is an asinine thing to say.
    Not everyone has hours of time. If someone works, as most people do - and gets 1 or 2 hours a day to reasonably play, that 5 minutes adds up. The point is that it's my time.

    You telling me SE can't increase the servers at all to accommodate the player base that is giving them money?

    "It's just a 5 minute wait" sounds like people got use to having to deal with that kind of crap, and have just come to accept it as the norm. It's not the norm.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Not everyone has hours of time. If someone works, as most people do - and gets 1 or 2 hours a day to reasonably play, that 5 minutes adds up. The point is that it's my time.

    You telling me SE can't increase the servers at all to accommodate the player base that is giving them money?

    "It's just a 5 minute wait" sounds like people got use to having to deal with that kind of crap, and have just come to accept it as the norm. It's not the norm.
    It doesn't matter whether SE can increase server capacity to address this specific problem. The issue is that they shouldn't spend the time or money needed to increase or upgrade server capacity solely to address 10-minute or less wait times to log in that only occur when crowded worlds are extra crowded during the first month or two of an expansion. Because it's a non-issue.

    Are there other issues with their servers that could use a look-at? Sure. But this? Nah.
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    Un-retired Red Mage.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saito_S View Post
    It doesn't matter whether SE can increase server capacity to address this specific problem. The issue is that they shouldn't spend the time or money needed to increase or upgrade server capacity solely to address 10-minute or less wait times to log in that only occur when crowded worlds are extra crowded during the first month or two of an expansion. Because it's a non-issue.

    Are there other issues with their servers that could use a look-at? Sure. But this? Nah.
    This has been going on for longer then ShB release.

    It's one of my many concerns with the practices of SE. I love the game, but damn.
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 07-23-2019 at 09:43 AM.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    This has been going on for longer then ShB release.

    It's one of my many concerns with the practices of SE. I love the game, but damn.
    Its only an issue for a couple weeks every 2 years. Its not worth it financially to do so. You don't see governments making roads wider for rush hour do you? Happens twice a day yet commutes can be as long as 2 hours in some places, when it would only take 20 mins without traffic.
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