People leaving trials/dungeons after leveling should lose that XP.

[MOZZYSTAR]

I really am not a fan of games that take away exp. PotD & and HoH are already risky cuz you can spend 30 or so minutes on it only to get no exp if all four party members die to a landmine or something and that's wasted time. In my opinion, people earned that exp by putting their time into it. The first few replies basically already said all that needed to be said. Don't ruin something just because there's the rare "bad egg" who abuses it. Out of the six or so years I've been playing FFXIV, I've only come across one player who dropped out as soon as they got to max cap. Otherwise, the still-rare drop out is usually for valid reasons. (Even if they weren't valid reasons to me, it's not my business.)

[Maverick_Haas]

I'm going to be honest.. this goes well into creep territory. Don't be creepers. If someone doesn't want to be in the group anymore don't hold it against them. Its not that serious.

Like I said, creepers gonna creep.

I mean seriously. There's already a penalty. Its good enough, and arguably could be debated on whether or not it is needed either. But these players are taking it to a new level. They look at the other three people in the group and believe they are there to group with them and its an utter insult that they should choose of their own free will that they wish to do something else.

I dunno about you all, but I'm getting some uncanny vibes about it.

What exactly are you insinuating about my character?
Agree or disagree with my idea. Harshly criticize it like many have. But calling me a creeper just because I suggested a harsher penalty for leaving, is disgusting...

Can you even step into someone else's shoes for a moment? I dunno, empathize like a normal human being?
If you've only got 1 to 2 hours to play, and are constantly waiting on queue times only to have an in demand player leave in the middle of a dungeon. Whatever playtime you had for the day was then wasted. Sure you can complete 2 maybe even 3 runs. But that easily turns into 1 maybe 2 roulettes when a healer leaves.

But obviously it seems I'm in the vast minority of those who would like to see harsher punishments. So it seems I'll need to re-evaluate my stance on it as it's not my hill to die on.

[Nixxe]

What exactly are you insinuating about my character?
Agree or disagree with my idea. Harshly criticize it like many have. But calling me a creeper just because I suggested a harsher penalty for leaving, is disgusting...

Can you even step into someone else's shoes for a moment? I dunno, empathize like a normal human being?
If you've only got 1 to 2 hours to play, and are constantly waiting on queue times only to have an in demand player leave in the middle of a dungeon. Whatever playtime you had for the day was then wasted. Sure you can complete 2 maybe even 3 runs. But that easily turns into 1 maybe 2 roulettes when a healer leaves.

But obviously it seems I'm in the vast minority of those who would like to see harsher punishments. So it seems I'll need to re-evaluate my stance on it as it's not my hill to die on.

Can you step into anyone else's shoes?

If you've got only 1 to 2 hours to play, and are constantly waiting on queue times only to DC or have an emergency come up and have to leave in the middle of a dungeon and lose everything you had earned so far, then whatever playtime you had for the day was then wasted.

[Ardox]

Dunno, they killed those mobs and bosses with you so they earned that loot/xp. They were penalized with the a withdraw penalty.

And they still don't gett the masssive amount of XP that comes with actually clearing the dungeon.. They literally get the XP for the kills they did and nothing else..

[Raven2014]

Can you even step into someone else's shoes for a moment? I dunno, empathize like a normal human being?

Eh, have you ever thought about practicing your own advise? Because ...

If you've only got 1 to 2 hours to play, and are constantly waiting on queue times only to have an in demand player leave in the middle of a dungeon. Whatever playtime you had for the day was then wasted. Sure you can complete 2 maybe even 3 runs. But that easily turns into 1 maybe 2 roulettes when a healer leaves.

You clearly only think and apply yourself here. Maybe people have their own personal time related reason to drop out early? Why is it only your version of "limited time" is more valuable?


Also, if whenever someone rant about an issue and you see most people disagree with it, it's because whatever being ranted on happens VERY VERY rarely, and the impact is often only dramatized by whoever doing the ranting which will often demand an accompanied unreasonable "fix". I had played this game since 2.0, and the # of time tank/healer dropped out "because they level up" can be counted on one hand. And in those instance, it barely takes any time at all to replace, especially in recent years with the adventure in need incentive, people who play tank/healer actively fish for these unfinished run for quick reward.


So really, if you are someone who are truly suffered something like this multiple times, and each instant took you the amount of time that it would take a whole dungeon instead just a couple min, caused you enough grief that make you believe a harsh punishment is legitimate ... well, then I will indeed offer my condolence to you, because you must be a really really unlucky sod. But I doubt that is the case. Since you seem to seek out sympathy and empathy ... here is a small advice, people often not give out those if they perceive the 'victim' is dramatizing and exaggerate the issue in order to have an unjust demand.

[Oscura]

I feel like people just go to the forum to only think about the next thing to complain about.

[Vahlnir]

I feel like people just go to the forum to only think about the next thing to complain about.

You are not wrong.

[Freyt]

You probably weren't worth healing for.

[NanaWiloh]

All people will do with your idea is quit right at the start of the run if they dont like the dungeon. They lose nothing and eat the timer, you lose a party member and have to wait for another how ever long it takes.

[ElazulHP]

Nah. Just blacklist them and move on.