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  1. #8781
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
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    I haven't heard any news regarding square struggling for cash, none of their latest games has flopped and has sold pretty well. This includes hosting a very successful MMO that has a successful cash shop as well as being a paid sub-game. KH3 was the best selling game of this year if I recall. This is now followed up by ShB major success. And we're now going into the FF7 remake, as well as the revenue brought in by them simply porting games to the switch.

    Yeah, they're making bank.

    Can they afford to update their graphics, mess around with the CC and introduce the missing genders? Yes. Will they be allotted the funding in order to do this? Or rather, will Yoshida who is indeed on of the heads of Square push for this game to have more funding? Only time will tell.
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  2. #8782
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I haven't heard any news regarding square struggling for cash, none of their latest games has flopped and has sold pretty well. This includes hosting a very successful MMO that has a successful cash shop as well as being a paid sub-game. KH3 was the best selling game of this year if I recall. This is now followed up by ShB major success. And we're now going into the FF7 remake, as well as the revenue brought in by them simply porting games to the switch.

    Yeah, they're making bank.
    I think the only financial trouble they've had recently were the cancelled DLCs for FF XV. Didn't exactly do much harm in the long term but I'm sure they weren't celebrating that day either. Millions of dollars basically flushed down the drain. But yeah, between Shadowbringers launch and other games being launched in the future they'll be just fine. More than fine, probably.
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  3. #8783
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I guess we all have different things in mind, but the character texture quality upgrade would be the big overhaul here according to that interview I linked. Otherwise, I agree with your post, it's likelier to touch on the areas you mention should it happen.
    Well, the whole game to an extent needs a texture overhaul.Though the new areas are pretty bad in some spots. I think they would probably add new effects, etc. before they would update character models or much else. To give the game the appearance of an overhaul. I'd just like to see more options available to characters really.
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  4. #8784
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I haven't heard any news regarding square struggling for cash, none of their latest games has flopped and has sold pretty well. This includes hosting a very successful MMO that has a successful cash shop as well as being a paid sub-game. KH3 was the best selling game of this year if I recall. This is now followed up by ShB major success. And we're now going into the FF7 remake, as well as the revenue brought in by them simply porting games to the switch.

    Yeah, they're making bank.

    Can they afford to update their graphics, mess around with the CC and introduce the missing genders? Yes. Will they be allotted the funding in order to do this? Only time will tell.
    I think I recall one of their projects flopping around the time October Path was released, losing them millions. But yeah, I think FFXIV is basically their cash cow.

    I'm not too fussy on customisation right now. I seriously just want to see the races completed and the classes fixed and all that happy amaro doodoo.
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  5. #8785
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I haven't heard any news regarding square struggling for cash, none of their latest games has flopped and has sold pretty well. This includes hosting a very successful MMO that has a successful cash shop as well as being a paid sub-game. KH3 was the best selling game of this year if I recall. This is now followed up by ShB major success. And we're now going into the FF7 remake, as well as the revenue brought in by them simply porting games to the switch.

    Yeah, they're making bank.

    Can they afford to update their graphics, mess around with the CC and introduce the missing genders? Yes. Will they be allotted the funding in order to do this? Or rather, will Yoshida who is indeed on of the heads of Square push for this game to have more funding? Only time will tell.
    The MMOs (and specifically FFXIV) are amongst their biggest revenue raisers. That was before ShB, of course, so that will only improve.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Well, the whole game to an extent needs a texture overhaul.Though the new areas are pretty bad in some spots. I think they would probably add new effects, etc. before they would update character models or much else. To give the game the appearance of an overhaul. I'd just like to see more options available to characters really.
    Agreed. I just wanted to clarify that the big cost with the character models is actually the textures themselves due to the way they originally created the assets, and not so much various newfangled technologies they could incorporate. He mentions in the article that they're looking into finding efficient ways to generate (and I assume, convert) the assets, but either way it is a "grunt work" problem and a matter of Is the cost worth the potential of increasing revenues from where they otherwise would be without the upgrade? Much like with the missing genders.
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  6. #8786
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I haven't heard any news regarding square struggling for cash, none of their latest games has flopped and has sold pretty well. This includes hosting a very successful MMO that has a successful cash shop as well as being a paid sub-game. KH3 was the best selling game of this year if I recall. This is now followed up by ShB major success. And we're now going into the FF7 remake, as well as the revenue brought in by them simply porting games to the switch.

    Yeah, they're making bank.

    Can they afford to update their graphics, mess around with the CC and introduce the missing genders? Yes. Will they be allotted the funding in order to do this? Or rather, will Yoshida who is indeed on of the heads of Square push for this game to have more funding? Only time will tell.
    Ya, I heard rumors that FFXIV surpassed WoW in active subscriptions back in January, and higher now I am sure. But was just rumors so couldn't find sources. But you're right, the kicker is if they can get the funding.
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  7. #8787
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakhaSilver View Post
    I mean, even if you logic it out, you realize how much work it is. They would have to remake all the assets--time I'd rather they spend on new things than retexturing old things.
    the question in my mind is that why don't they just outsource it?
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  8. #8788
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    the question in my mind is that why don't they just outsource it?
    Because it's a loss of control. Japanese companies tend to be more conservative in how they operate so if a project is important enough they'd want to keep things in house. I work for an American branch of a international Japanese company who, at one point, made the decision to let another company make an core part of one of our products that we normally would make and it lead to one of the largest service advisories we've had. If FFXIV is a substantial money maker for them then I can't image that they'd let any outside variable work on it.
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  9. #8789
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    SE has been outsourcing for years now. But when it comes to FFXIV, they bring in specialists for various things, so a small outsource in that regard. I think they are scared, and rightfully so, of another 1.0 disaster lol
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  10. #8790
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenBroadaxe View Post
    Because it's a loss of control. Japanese companies tend to be more conservative in how they operate so if a project is important enough they'd want to keep things in house. I work for an American branch of a international Japanese company who, at one point, made the decision to let another company make an core part of one of our products that we normally would make and it lead to one of the largest service advisories we've had. If FFXIV is a substantial money maker for them then I can't image that they'd let any outside variable work on it.
    if it's just a matter of re-creating textures at a higher resolution then you're going to have to really sell it to me on how they could possibly screw something so simple like that
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