Disheartened healer annoyed with Shadowbringers' difficulty

[HyoMinPark]

I think they do hit harder. I ALSO think it's a gear issue too, but again I'm sittign here on monk and my breako and I notice the difference. Maybe they aren't harder but you aren't telling me they don't hit harder... cause they do. Heals did get weaker, and all of that combined makes a difference.

The ShB dungeons really aren’t any harder than the SB ones—I still haven’t found a trash pack that trashes tanks as hard as the first pull in Bardam’s Mettle or Doma Castle did. They seem harder only because tank HP is increasing while healers are still healing for the same values that they healed for at level 70. Our healing isn’t scaling, which gives the illusion that things are hitting harder, but they really aren’t. I haven’t had any difficulties healing on any healer save for AST—and that’s only because AST is pitiful right now.

Ya, No protect, Bole changed to dmg buff, no eye for eye, Gravity debuff removed.

Fairly certain Gravity never had a debuff attached to it at any point during 4.0.

[Daws]

WHM was my first 80, then DNC, and just finished leveling SCH yesterday. WHM was Holy spam per usual. I tried a similar tactic with SCH and the tank kept dropping dead (and getting pissed at me). Swap Holy spam with Adlo spam and ez clap. SCH was definitely more work than WHM but it wasn't hard once I stopped trying to play like a WHM.

I also found it more fun. Loving SCH.

[Connor]

I feel like the thing about ShB dungeons is they’re more difficult to heal superficially. Larger HP pools, healing kits being rebalanced around the level 80 skills, lower gear Ilvl and the removal of Protect and certain defensive tank skills, all culminate in battles feeling like they have more outgoing damage. Though this isn’t actually the case, it can feel true if you aren’t acutely aware of how these changes affected healing. So while there isn’t technically any more damage being put out than before, I can understand why it feels like that.

Also as an aside, this is just a tinfoil hat theory. But I think Scholar and Astrologian particularly have had way too much weight put on Seraph and Neutral Sect while they were balancing the healing kits. The result is that before you get those abilities, it can feel like your healing is a bit weaker than in the past. But then when you do get them, suddenly your healing (and thus personal DPS) capabilities shoot right up, especially since the abilities work best with pre-planning due to their long duration and relatively short cooldowns. Basically, I think that the devs have made the healer kits weaker for everything below level 80, because once you reach that point you get abilities that make it much stronger

[Rivxkobe]

Gravity debuff removed.

???

Can you explain this because I'm generally confused.

[Canadane]

I don't know, this is like every trash pull was designed based on running to the wall on the first pull of Bardam's. I think this is definitely worse than it's ever been.

Levelling dungeons have always been difficult to pull to the wall.
Doable, mind you. And they absolutely still are.
But level cap dungeons with appropriate gear are much easier due to no sync.

[NanaWiloh]

???

Can you explain this because I'm generally confused.

That was me late at night with too much on my mind Thoughts were skewed..

[adamswagem]

threads kinda old but healing is perfectly fine so long as the tank knows how to use CDs. Its super noticeable when doing low level content and DRK doesnt have The Blackest Night for example.

Healing raids/Titania EX was faceroll easy especially Titania EX once you know the fight(as SCH). Even winging the raid last week blind the only hard parts were figuring out the mechanics for Titan. But healing the actual damage going out was a non issue

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Really? I just feel comfortable in any dungeon doing very big pulls as sch/whm and im not a "great" healer either

[HyoMinPark]

???

Can you explain this because I'm generally confused.

Gravity never had a CC effect on it. Perhaps they meant Celestial Opposition, which used to could Stun for 5 seconds every 2 minutes.

[NanaWiloh]

Gravity never had a CC effect on it. Perhaps they meant Celestial Opposition, which used to could Stun for 5 seconds every 2 minutes.

No had whm on the brain when I poste the message :P