Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Mochamonarch]

This is getting good.

[Gwenorai]

Snip.

Having me pinch the bridge of my nose. Yes, your friend isn't gay and that's fine. But there's also denying that there are plenty of folks who are gay, bara and into the furry fandom. It's not a bad thing. It's a genuine observation. I will state that there's probably a good portion of individuals who are playing that race because it ticks off those specific reasons. It fits their aesthetic or 'sexuality' etc. Again, nothing wrong like that. It's the same as men hiding on female Miqote/Viera/Au'ra because they want to look at an attractive female character at all hours and dress her up.

Your friend doesn't do this, good for him. Can't also hide from the fact that it does exist. Incidentally, I have friends who are on male Hrothgar because they're gay, bara and into the furry fandom. Good for them. I'm not into the furry fandom, or a homosexual man. But I can see the appeal from an outside perspective that Hrothgar does look pretty cool, and that anyone who enjoys such aesthetic should have a piece of that pie. I can also say that the race isn't claimed by an agenda. No, the only thing that can be pushed forward regarding it is the educated guess that Hrothgar is built for men, in its current genderlocked state. Why? Because it's locked to male-only, and it's a lot less likely to have a female playing on a male toon than it is for a male to. Male Hrothgar has zero feminity. Note, I'm female and I play on male characters only. It's rare. Again, does this make the race 'gay', no. Does it appeal to them? Yes. Does it appeal to furries? Yes. How many women are playing said race? About tree fiddy.

Female Viera, however, is built for both because women are more likely to play on a female toon and men are a lot more likely to switch to an attractive play bunny for their eye-candy. Shrug.

Isn't worth arguing about.

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Though I will say, I would rather mViera use the male Elezen body, with the neck tamed and a muscle definer like midlander - I'd jump real quick. Until then male Elezen is acceptable, even if I have to find outfits that cull the neck. I'm not interested in them sharing a body type with mMiqote, or their faces for that matter. They're a little too round for me. I prefer a jawline I can use as a ruler.

[Halivel]

Specially interesting considering that the genders we currently have took 1.5 and for obvious resource reasons the new ones will likely take even less

I suppose I missed something, but did amount of gear suddenly became lower..? I mean yes, making counterparts when you already have half of the race is a little bit easier in terms of style, but it doesn't make work with clothes any easier. They still will need to adjust 10k items for them. And even if they don't need to adjust some of them, they still need to check how they work on them. So saying they will take less time is a little bit far from true. They could take same amount of time, though.

[Komarimono]

Having me pinch the bridge of my nose. Yes, your friend isn't gay and that's fine. But there's also denying that there are plenty of folks who are gay, bara and into the furry fandom. It's not a bad thing. It's a genuine observation. I will state that there's probably a good portion of individuals who are playing that race because it ticks off those specific reasons. It fits their aesthetic or 'sexuality' etc. Again, nothing wrong like that. It's the same as men hiding on female Miqote/Viera/Au'ra because they want to look at an attractive female character at all hours and dress her up.

Your friend doesn't do this, good for him. Can't also hide from the fact that it does exist. Incidentally, I have friends who are on male Hrothgar because they're gay, bara and into the furry fandom. Good for them. I'm not into the furry fandom, or a homosexual man. But I can see the appeal from an outside perspective that Hrothgar does look pretty cool, and that anyone who enjoys such aesthetic should have a piece of that pie. I can also say that the race isn't claimed by an agenda.No, the only thing that can be pushed forward regarding it is the educated guess that Hrothgar is built for men. in its current state. Why? Because it's locked to male-only, and it's a lot less likely to have a female playing on a male toon than it is for a male to. Note, I'm female and I play on male characters only. It's rare. Again, does this make the race 'gay', no. Does it appeal to them? Yes. Does it appeal to furries? Yes. How many women are playing said race? About tree fiddy.

Female Viera, however, is built for both because women are more likely to play on a female toon and men are a lot more likely to switch to an attractive play bunny for their eye-candy. Shrug.


Isn't worth arguing about.

I know not worth arguing about, already blocked him since he doesn't even know the own words he posts. I'm one of those few who read the entire thread, and I'm not saying others are pushing his agenda, but he is, repeatedly on hundreds of posts. It's beyond ignorance and makes those of us are are not straight look bad in any light due to his non stop implications of the races and his wants claiming to be facts. Pathetic drivel if I am honest.

[Gwenorai]

I know not worth arguing about, already blocked him since he doesn't even know the own words he posts. I'm one of those few who read the entire thread, and I'm not saying others are pushing his agenda, but he is, repeatedly on hundreds of posts. It's beyond ignorance and makes those of us are are not straight look bad in any light due to his non stop implications of the races and his wants claiming to be facts. Pathetic drivel if I am honest.

Aye, don't let it get you down or anything - just move on from it, as you have. A lot more folks are willing to have a good conversation and discussion that is backed up with facts and educated opinions. I did a little editing on my original post as well but not much.

Anyway, the more the merrier in regards to the good old discussion.

[Mochamonarch]

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Yeah in all seriousness, I don't know what's wrong with pointing out that there's tons of gay furry guys who like bara. I'm in a discord filled to the brim with gay men, and guess what race they were hyped for the moment they were announced? I see tons of screenshots of their bara cats doing various bara cat activities. They're having their fun and there's absolutely 0 wrong with that.

There's a running joke that all gays are closet furry because of just how often the sexuality and fandom intersect. It's not a bad thing, it's just...a thing that happens to happen sometimes.

As far as M!Viera goes, since Yoshi said he'd ballpark them around Elezen, I feel like they would be kinda skinny. Probably a twunk body like au ra type if I'm being honest. As far as faces go, even if they don't mirror Miqo'te, all I want is a nice "softboy" face option so I can have some bunny boy cheeks to squish; and since all races seem to have one of those options, I highly doubt Viera are going to be skipped out there. square can't resist throwing in the obligatory pretty boy option.

[Hayle]

Still showing my support of male Viera and female Hrothgar down the line!

[Skyskip]

Likewise. Even if we're more likely to get big buns rather than small buns, I'm tossing my support in here again since it's been so long. Glad to see the topic still growing though.

[Mochamonarch]

Likewise. Even if we're more likely to get big buns rather than small buns, I'm tossing my support in her again since it's been so long. Glad to see the topic still growing though.

Even if we get big buns, we'll still probably have enough customization options to make small cute buns!

[Lauront]

I was hoping that they would be along the lines of Byakko. Minus the weird tiger arm. The final result does seem to be closer to the Japanese aesthetic of 'bara' than a Western design to me, though.

I like muscle, but around the point of a Highlander guy is roughly the limit of what I enjoy. Anything too far beyond that it ends up becoming too much and weirdly proportioned for my tastes.

I think you can go a bit above Highlanders and still have it look fine, but not too much. I wish they had done so for Au Ra, since a lot of their concept art had portrayed such builds. Personally I don’t like the Roe or Hrothgar build, as it’s at the point where I find it too large. Something like male Raen being left as they are and Xaela achieving a build a bit above Highlanders would’ve pleased me. Something like these guys from DQXI:



For Viera that'd probably be a bit too far, but a man can dream about them going back and re-doing Au Ra to be like that!