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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    I think it's rather simple to set up rules.

    Reasons you don't receive xp or items
    - Leaving without a vote abandon

    Reasons you do receive xp and items
    - Vote abandon
    - Vote kick
    - Lockout
    - Duty Complete

    Sure, some people would then abuse the vote kick by afking, but it's less appealing to go for the vote kick than it is just to leave.
    I think if you've got the inclination to waste everyone's time, you should have wasted your own.
    It's not so much of a big deal if people are easily replaceable, but currently healers are in high demand and can take literally half an hour to replace.
    It's not just a minor inconvenience, it's literally almost a whole hour of just waiting on queue times.
    Then people will just disconnect, or go afk, and do something of more importance. You'll have to kick them. Have fun waiting for your replacement anyway.

    This solves nothing, and just causes problems for others.
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    Maverick_Haas's Avatar
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    Maverick Haas
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Then people will just disconnect, or go afk, and do something of more importance. You'll have to kick them. Have fun waiting for your replacement anyway.

    This solves nothing, and just causes problems for others.
    You don't understand human psychology I'm guessing.

    The mentality of people leaving is to do something else in the game. Cases where there are emergencies and such are outliers, and the drop of XP would be the least of their worries. So if people wanting to leave so they can get that S rank hunt, wouldn't going afk just be a dumb way to quicken their exit? I'm sure we can all agree that it makes no sense to attempt an afk kick in order to get out quickly. The quickest way would be to just leave. If that's what you choose to do, that's fine, but you shouldn't have reaped any rewards from the run for wasting every else's time.

    There's also reporting that can be done on that character and the amount of vote kicks you get do count against you.
    They leave, they lose that gain.
    30 minute timeout isn't enough when the player has already gotten what they wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maneesha View Post
    if people have to leave, they'll leave, no matter the penalty. imo its a bit silly to join a dungeon and leave after lvl up (in the sense they don't hit max lvl), one could gain more exp for the next lvl if he was to continue, but if they choose to leave there is a penalty in place for this action.
    In this case, someone has hit max level. This someone also takes 15 to 30 minutes to replace. This someone already extends the initial queue times by 15-30 minutes for being said someone. They get a 30 minute timer penalty for leaving, which is roughly the same amount of time to replace them, effectively extending the penalty to the people who've not done anything wrong. Someone who does this would most likely do it again. Vote kicks do add up. The extra time to discern whether or not the person is AFK is negligible... You're going to spend at most 15 minutes replacing that person, an extra 5 minutes isn't that long. Also, wouldn't it be dumb to wait out a voke kick, when there's effectively 5-10 minutes left in the dungeon?
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    Last edited by Maverick_Haas; 07-22-2019 at 04:11 PM.