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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    There has been some dissent, yes. I play on a JP data center and I can definitely tell you that while you do see Tank and DPS as needed players on occasion, you often actually have to wait a significant time for a healer sometimes. Healer and tank seem to go off and on as the job in need-- but from the experience I described just previously, I think the "adventurer in need" code/utility/etc. is not always doing its job correctly. So regardless of what they may be saying, there is definitely a lack of people playing them at the moment.

    I can only give some examples of my own experinces, but once I locked in Tank adv. in need for leveling roulette, but I was still 15th or so on the list and the queue took a good 10-15 minutes rather than the quick instant - a few minutes adventurer in need usually has for a wait. I think I did alliance as a DPS "in need" and I was like 49th and still had to wait like 20 mins, so... yeah.... *shrug*
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 07-22-2019 at 02:18 PM.

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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I think the "adventurer in need" code/utility/etc. is not always doing its job correctly.
    Just from observing it, I would guess that it handles requests sequentially and looks for tank, then healer, then DPS, while the simple "role in need" setup doesn't allow for the important element of level - something that gets worse as the maximum increases.

    Say the party algorithm handles requests one-by-one, and current top-of-the-pile is a DPS queuing for the Lv79 dungeon.

    "Okay, we need a tank. Tank is the adventurer in need!"

    ...and lots of tanks who are not at Lv79 join the queue. So it keeps asking for a tank until it gets one it can use.

    "Now we have a tank, we need a healer. Healer is the adventurer in need!"

    And it repeats. And again for DPS if there was only the one player queuing for that dungeon. It doesn't see the growing pile, only the one thing it needs right now.

    That's my theory anyway.

    Alliance raids and such would have the same problem if they're trying to gather people for a specifically requested Lv70 raid, but people below that level keep queuing instead.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 07-22-2019 at 02:42 PM.

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    LetheelSensei's Avatar
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    Letheel Arviesta
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    Aegis
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I'm fluent in Japanese and play on a Japanese server.

    I'll go ask around next time I go online, but my impression is that there are less healers around (looking at the queues), but the bulk of the criticism seems to be centered on the White Mage being OP while the Astrologian is too weak and too difficult to use.

    With Scholar it's like "well, they simplified it, but at least you can play it" (unlike Astro).

    Still, I think there's a lot less dissatisfaction than in the west. That there are fewer healers queuing is more likely due to the fact that you have new DPS and Tank Jobs but no new Healer (which has never happened before), with the fact that Astrologian was drastically reworked for the worse also contributing.

    Now, when Stormblood launched, I remember it was the scholar changes that pissed everyone off in Japan... and int the West, too, but more so in Japan, I think.
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