SHB BLM is the peak of this game's job design

[Acidblood]

I guess they would only be worth it if they gave you more damage than the average rotation PPS. It turns out that only takes 1 tick of damage from the DoT not to be wasted, so as long as the initial Thunder cast has ticked once, it should be fine to use the proc.

I feel like this is only true if it doesn't interfere with your rotation... i.e. if you are pushing your AF timer to the point of having to cast another F1 (at the loss of a F4) then using Thundercloud at that point isn't worth it. It also isn't worth it if your rotation maintains 100% DoT uptime anyway (since the initial hit from TC is less PPS than the overall rotation); it is definitely worth using in place of a hard cast Thunder though (to maintain the DoT) because if you are hard casting Thunder every time then you are better off ignoring it entirely :/ (1 TC proc per rotation + 100% DoT uptime makes it worth it though).

Bonus tip (edited): Firestarter can also be useful for extending your rotation with Manafont; e.g. ... F4 (down to 1200 MP) > Despair > FS > Manafont (weave) > F4 > Despair > B3 ...

[Kabooa]

Bonus tip: Firestarter can also be useful for extending your rotation with Manafont; e.g. ... F4 (down to 1200 MP) > FS > Manafont (weave) > F4 > F4 > Despair > B3 ...

You lost a despair there.

[osutin]

Still can't make me play it without falling asleep though heh.

Mind if I ask what your main is? SMN?

[Acidblood]

You lost a despair there.

Is there enough MP (i.e Manafont only gives 3K and F4 is 1.6K)? Though I suppose ... F4 (down to 1200MP) > Despair > FS > Manafont (weave) > F4 > Despair would be better?.

[Kabooa]

Is there enough MP (i.e Manafont only gives 3K and F4 is 1.6K)? Though I suppose ... F4 (down to 1200MP) > Despair > FS > Manafont (weave) > F4 > Despair would be better?.

Assuming you didn't have any problems on the lead up, yeah. You should cap off the 1200mp with Despair unless something is distinctly telling you no.

Like a four wheeler.

[Marianno]

Hi, quick few questions. Since enochian is now 15% more magic dmg is the following now true,

a. F4 - (300×1.15)+300=645? This includes 3 AF stacks and enochian.

b. Foul - 650×1.5=975? This includes only enochian.

c. Despair - (380×1.15)+380=817? This includes 3 AF stacks and enochian.

d. Xenoglossy - 750×1.5=1125?
Are these new potencies correct, just discussing this with a few mates in-game and couldn't find anything solid online. Thanks for any help! Also why does SE not put the true potencies with final calculations on the ability name? Seems like a waste to keep people in the dark...just my opinion.

[Ramesses]

beautifully designed jobs, all skills flow into each other. clear phase of uptime and downtime, and seemingly they have answers to ST and AOE situation.

i suppose it shouldnt be asurprise considering BLM is yoshi's main. he probably put extra time on it

There is so much truth in every word you have stated. +1

[Orbus]

Hi, quick few questions. Since enochian is now 15% more magic dmg is the following now true,

a. F4 - (300×1.15)+300=645? This includes 3 AF stacks and enochian.

b. Foul - 650×1.5=975? This includes only enochian.

c. Despair - (380×1.15)+380=817? This includes 3 AF stacks and enochian.

d. Xenoglossy - 750×1.5=1125?
Are these new potencies correct, just discussing this with a few mates in-game and couldn't find anything solid online. Thanks for any help! Also why does SE not put the true potencies with final calculations on the ability name? Seems like a waste to keep people in the dark...just my opinion.

What kind of math you doin' there boy?
Astral III multiplies fire spell potency by 1.8, not 2.
So Fire 4 and Despair are 621 and 786 respectively.
And foul and xenoglossy are 650 and 750 times 1.15, not 1.5.

[Marianno]

@Orbus, thanks for that!