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  1. #51
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Oh the SAM 80 is worse, it was just a clip show of the SAM story. I thought it might be reminding the Samurai player of the story as setup for a great new adventure but it just ended.
    I say only a few are good for this expansion.

    Scholar is one of the good ones due to it being linked to the Healer Job Role Quest.

    SMN is nice as it continues the story for Fordola and Arevald but I can only guess they are considered SMN Job NPC story characters now so their story may continue only through future Job/Role Quest that involve the SMN Job NPCs.

    Gunbreaker is decent but that is expected as the lvl 80 Quest is more of a True Ending for their level 60 to 70 Job Storyline.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-19-2019 at 11:16 AM.

  2. #52
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    Kaleth Orebiter
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    The issue is that before when there were only 12-14 jobs, it would have been fine to make decent job quests. Now we have uh....17 or 18 jobs? It becomes more and more daunting to write job quests for that many jobs. It's a shame because I LIVE for the job lore and we got so little of it. How did we get some of these powers? Hell I would kill for flavor text in the tooltips or SOMETHING.
    That doesn't make any sense:
    1) They only have 2 more jobs than SB
    2) Look at the number of sidequests in all the hamlets of ShB..
    No doubt they have the resources to create those quests.

    My opinion is they thought it would have been too convenient to have 18 tutors in the first and too immersion breaking to ask the hero to return to the source while doing the MSQ.
    I feel they wanted the role-quest to shine and they had a much better story to tell.
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  3. #53
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    My opinion is they thought it would have been too convenient to have 18 tutors in the first and too immersion breaking to ask the hero to return to the source while doing the MSQ.
    I feel like this is the big reason for the Role Quests.

    Incidentally, I was quite let down by the 80 Warrior quest, because while I like Curious Gorge, and I like Dorongo, I hate their romance, and wish that they had nothing to do with each other. Although, with the open-endeness of the quest, is it possible we'll be seeing a bunch of level 80 Job Quests spread out over the expansion? That will augment the armour and weapons we got from maxing the class?

    Please? I don't even want to think about it being gated behind Eureka 2.0
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  4. #54
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Anyone think the job quests will ever make a return?
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  5. #55
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    Clouse Cleyras
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    Rafflesia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Job have always being boring for me, except for sam and smn, so no problem for me.
    Role quests where fun and on hand with the lore of shb.
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  6. #56
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    Lineage Razor
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    Pretty sure they did Role Quests this time around instead of Job Quests because there were four roles (well, five, really, but they combined ranged physical and melee physical since they didn't have enough Warriors of Darkness to go around), and seventeen jobs. The amount of work saved in creating questlines was TREMENDOUS. And, presuming we continue to get new jobs in future expansions, the problem isn't going to get any better. I, sadly, believe that Job Quests are now going to be a thing of the past.

    I can't say that I'm pleased with it, but I do understand where they're coming from. And, to be honest, I rather enjoyed the Role Quests; my only beef with them is that they supplanted job quests.
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    They already took away the national dex in 7th gen. What they're doing in 8th gen is outright removing the ability to import mons not in the regional dex.

    Which, yeah, is a pretty poor move to make in a collectathon game whose long-term motto has been "gotta catch 'em all". The game will still sell like hotcakes because of what it is, but as far as I'm concerned the backlash they've been getting for this move is completely justified.
    Well I wont buy em and neither my wife thats 2-3 games less sold lol... ik thats not enough to matter at all, but still...


    Imo i like the role quests and how they are tied to the msq, but yes it feels lacking a bit... imo it cant be asked to much to think of one story with 4-5 quests per job... i miss the crafter ones a lot.
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  8. #58
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    Rael Levynfang
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    5.0 is just the first part of an expansion that is supposed to last the next 2 years. There's a lot more to come. Patch cycles usually drop every three months or so...yeah, that's pretty much it for right now but I'm sure at some point there will be more Job Quests along with a ton of other new content. All you do now is just chill out and enjoy what's been given.
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I just finished levelling everything to 80, and as part of that saw all the job quests.
    It's odd - I came to the conclusion that SE decided partway through development to axe the traditional job quest series.
    Some jobs - Scholar most notably - had major important plot developments, a quest beyond "talk to this guy then this guy then you're done", and so on.
    Others seemed to be brief comedy sketches - NIN most notably.
    And some were like - "hey, remember what you did at 70? Square-Enix remembers" - like SAM.

    The role quests were really well done; I can't decide myself if the job quests as is are better than having nothing at all, though.
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  10. #60
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 90
    it's propably because we are in a different world and all of our masters were left behind, the level 80 quest is just us returning to eorzea after finishing 5.0 main story.
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