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  1. #22151
    Player
    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Character
    Shadow Link
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    This happened some days back. I was leveling DRK in Malikah's Wells with some amazing healer partner. So we got a DRG and a MCH. So I do the first big pull, everything seems off as things weren't dying THAT fast. So I noticed the DRG was single targetting everything (I could even see his single target procs coming up). So I ask "(DRG name) are you using your AoE moves?" He says "No".... UH HUH... OK. "Can you please use your AoE moves?". He said "ok". So he alternates between single targetting and AoEing throughout all the dungeon, being the lowest DPS.

    You could say "Yes, every DPS in DF ever" but that's not all. We reach the last boss and we pull. The DRG is standing still and he says "I'll only use AoE moves in this boss fight, BOSS". I told him to quit his BS and play properly but I meet more childish behaviors "But you asked me to AoE, you just didn't specify". Clearly mocking me and trolling. I was tempted to ask the healer to wipe the fight and kick this guy... but I just wanted to be over with it. He keeps mocking me over and over... I obviously get angry and told them that they should stop pretending to act all smart, to stop being prideful about being bad at the game (He was truly pissing me off). Apparently he got pissed that I asked him to AoE, that I was a bad person because "I fired first". Imagine asking someone to play properly being taken as an insult. So I was like "are you 14?! or 12?!" he said "guess again (smiley face)". We finish the encounter and the other DPS told him "You're 10, get over yourself".

    His DPS was terrible, way below mine (as a tank). The other DPS was carrying him too. I told him to just go and play with trusts because he shouldn't get paired with anyone if he's going to keep that mindset.
    (10)

  2. #22152
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    Kaylessa's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaylessa Sylverlur
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    I’ve been running GNB through 50-70 and leveling roulettes casually to level. It’s been a very long time since I ran tank through roulettes. DPS constantly running ahead of me makes me feel like I’m not going fast enough, even though I’m pulling wall to wall and I start moving to the gate when the last mob is nearly dead to try and stay ahead. None have actually pulled for me, anyway. I will try to keep this feeling of being rushed in mind when I’m doing things as healer or DPS because I tend to do the same thing and stop right before the monsters aggro to wait. It won’t kill me to stay behind the tank if it means they won’t get that same feeling.
    If this is where a lot of tankxiety comes from, it's needless. I really don't understand this feeling some tanks have that they must control the movements of the entire group. It's not their job, and it's not part of their job to be first through every bit of the dungeon. I don't mind if DPS run ahead of me, especially if they're stopping before engaging any other enemies.

    Maybe because I main a healer. My philosophy tends to be you can do whatever you want, but if you die by the time I get there then that's on you (to those groups who sprint far away before I'm ready) and that tends to carry over to when I tank. I don't mind if you run ahead, I don't mind if you pull for me, but don't get angry if we die Most of the time the runs are smooth.

    I find tanking to be incredibly non stressful actually. As a healer you have to fix all the mistakes but as a tank if you know the mechanics and rotate cooldowns most of the content is really relaxing imo.
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  3. #22153
    Player
    drmambo1999's Avatar
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    Character
    Osiris Wrath
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I've found that I hate being the first person to call out my puddle in Titania ex because someone always ends up not seeing my call out and calls the same one OR standing in my puddle during the fight lol.

    I had a pretty decent group yesterday but when it came to the 2nd puddle phase the other red mage in the party ran to my puddle as I was and so I tried to book it to the other puddle but it was too late and two adds spawned (another part member had the same issue) and we wiped. they then proceeded to tell me to commit to a spot and I politely let them know I had called it out before the fight.

    Sadly some didn't feel like giving the group another shot and left and that was that.

    Thankfully right after that I ended up in, maybe the best party I've ever been in for a ex trial farm, so it works out!
    (2)

  4. #22154
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Ran into Shinryu normal via Trial DR with my FC and ran into a strange syncing issue with the fight where the snake knock back pointed in the same direction as the half arena cleave, resulting in six people dying immediately. I've never had that happen before in either normal or EX version so it just seems like we pushed Shinryu past a certain HP% at a bad time? I'm not sure.

    Thank heavens for Healer LB3 though >>; Saved the fight though that particular fight was the hardest Shinryu I've ever had to heal, even compared to doing the EX version while it was relevant.
    (0)

  5. #22155
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    Doljax's Avatar
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    Character
    Hogelun Noykin
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Ah, Mt. Gulg. Had a tank who thought cooldowns were optional, and - as evidenced by his chewing out of the poor healer when he deigned to use one - a reflection of the healer failing to do their job. This was made worse (and better, strangely enough) by his pulling large groups. The DNC saw fit to make him their partner. The same DNC who thought AoE was optional, even in spite of these large, painful (I presume) pulls.

    I regret that I could only com the healer, and not do anything more substantial.
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    Dragoon is love,
    Dragoon is life,
    Dragoon is tanking the floor
    so we don't wipe.

  6. #22156
    Player
    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    If this is where a lot of tankxiety comes from, it's needless. I really don't understand this feeling some tanks have that they must control the movements of the entire group. It's not their job, and it's not part of their job to be first through every bit of the dungeon. I don't mind if DPS run ahead of me, especially if they're stopping before engaging any other enemies.

    Maybe because I main a healer. My philosophy tends to be you can do whatever you want, but if you die by the time I get there then that's on you (to those groups who sprint far away before I'm ready) and that tends to carry over to when I tank. I don't mind if you run ahead, I don't mind if you pull for me, but don't get angry if we die Most of the time the runs are smooth.

    I find tanking to be incredibly non stressful actually. As a healer you have to fix all the mistakes but as a tank if you know the mechanics and rotate cooldowns most of the content is really relaxing imo.
    As the tank its your job to gather and hold aggro. some also seem to think this means you get to dictate the pace even if everyone is telling you to slow the crap down. if someone feels stressed THEY CAN TELL ME NICELY and I'll listen. as a healer I just go with what I'm given unless I feel like we're not getting anywhere. Really tanking is relaxing. The only thing I need to worry about is my level of stress in any pull. I watch people. if we're going solid, I'll ride with it. if people are killing crap so fast they're getting snooze Time I'll go faster.

    Its why if I think its a smarter idea to do small pulls I'll just do that. I know my time math by now, and I'm in no particular rush.
    (0)

  7. #22157
    Player
    Mirhd's Avatar
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    Character
    Ellisuur Muur
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    First run of Eden's Gate: Resurrection after the patch hit, main tank. Was pretty fun, really liked the fight. Anyway, I'm sure everyone as a similar story at this point, but it was still hilarious, so...

    Zone in, my fellow tank is jumping around with the others, backs into the wall and drops dead. The bard walks into the wall, drops dead at the same time the dragoon does. The white mage starts trying to rez the dragoon, but I see the cast bar stop. The dancer, deciding she wants in on the fun, walks into the wall, followed by the white mage. At this point I'm laughing my head off, the samurai pulls the boss, then commits seppuku (read: runs into the wall). I decide to end it all and join my fallen companions, leaving the scholar all alone for the briefest of seconds. We rez, beat the boss. Still has me chuckling though.

    Bit of of a personal failure and the game messing with me, I suppose? Yesterday, first run through Eden's Gate: Inundation, off tank. Get to the point where the boss removes the center of the platform, then does his aoe that covers most of what's left. We're running back towards the boss, get close enough, I plunge... game wants to put me closer to the center which isn't THERE, so I just barely clip the edge, and fell into the pit. I just run back when the fight hits that point, from now on. Too paranoid. >>

    Earlier today, trial roulette, get Descent, off tank again. Eventually get a time delayed spelled on me, whatever the name's called. Move away when it's closer to expiring, and... I'm lagging, d/c. Internet goes out for a minute or two, get back on and am removed as I load in. I can see being annoyed if the aoe went off as I d/ced, but there's nothing I could have done about that, so... /shrug.

    Anyway, I've had my fair share of off days myself, or derpy moments, so I'm not going to rag on someone else unless they do something REALLY ridiculous. Kind of takes a lot to annoy me...tanks that immediately rush off and pull everything fit the bill. Yes, I've healed big pulls many times with no issues, no, I don't enjoy it. I rarely bother with the leveling roulettes for this reason, even for the once-a-day bonus. On the off chance I choose to join one, I usually get a rush tank, roll my eyes, finish the run and am reminded once again why I stopped running them. Trusts were a boon this expansion, I tell you. >>
    (4)
    Last edited by Mirhd; 07-18-2019 at 04:34 PM. Reason: spelling

  8. #22158
    Player
    Kallistra's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Kallistra Noblesse
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Ran leveling yesterday on DNC and ran into a sprout tank and healer in Qarn. Was expecting a long run because of it, but was pleasantly surprised by how skilled they both were. The tank in particular was quite chatty and made a couple hilarious comments. It was a very enjoyable run.
    (6)

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    Dark Knight and Warrior
    Married Selli 2020

  9. #22159
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    foussi's Avatar
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    Character
    Magnus Avalon
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Oof why do so many people avoid using aoe spells.
    Did gubal library and the black mage literally used on trashmobs which literally were clumped together fire 4 and blizzard 4, which both are single target skills adsgtftffdr.
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  10. #22160
    Player
    Odd's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Gridania
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    908
    Character
    Tiri Thon
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I did leveling roulette last night with my PLD and landed in the level 77 dungeon. Got matched with a SCH who used a total of 3 different skills the whole dungeon: Physick, Succor and Indom. No Adlo, no Excog, and no dps spells whatsoever. Possible bot? I find it hard to believe any player could be that bad by level 77.
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