Another Raid, another 8 currencies to bloat our inventory.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Don't you think that if you feel you need 3 extra retainers for inventory there is maybe a small inventory problem with this game, when you can fill up the chocobo saddlebag full of tokens that it is not just the player that has a problem but SE themselves, something like the primal totems do not need to be inventory items they can and i feel should change them to currency and give them their own tab.

No, because I chose to have those extra retainers to store all those materials. I did it out of convenience, not necessity.

Like someone already said, currency items and items you can roll on seem to be irreconcilable. Making it a currency item would have them have to revert to only 4 drops per run, if not less, to compensate for the fact that people won't have to do any extra runs to get the token they exactly want (bolstering the queue times in the process). Not to mention those items would fall directly into with no rolling involved and most likely they have no way to make that currency be weekly locked.

[Crushnight]

No, because I chose to have those extra retainers to store all those materials. I did it out of convenience, not necessity.

Like someone already said, currency items and items you can roll on seem to be irreconcilable. Making it a currency item would have them have to revert to only 4 drops per run, if not less, to compensate for the fact that people won't have to do any extra runs to get the token they exactly want (bolstering the queue times in the process). Not to mention those items would fall directly into with no rolling involved and most likely they have no way to make that currency be weekly locked.

And someone can say just get rid of those items on your 3 extra retainers, your hoarding them, you don't NEED THEM IMMEDIATELY, so why clutter your retainers with useless stuff you can easily get a hold of again.

Then what about those items where you need 7 of them for the tomestone for weapons, you do not roll on them, they function exactly like tomestones where there is a cap you can get weekly, but unlike tomestones they drop in your inventory needlessly rather than a potential currency tab.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

@OP
Just get rid of old currencies. Unless you have plans to get old gear and do old content again then there is no reason to hold on to Old Currencies.
Its pretty simple.
That and...if you suddenly dont have inventory space, then it sounds like you aren't managing your Inventory, and possibly might be holding onto things you dont need.
Get rid of Rubbish, and this Issue will become a Non-Issue.

[Priya]

I agree with OP, and I'm not a hoarder.

[kazzel120]

You people are broken records with the same complain threads.

Don't want a bloated inventory? Stop hoarding crap then bitching about it.

I have every crafter and gathering class at 70 still working on getting them caught up for ShB and have 0 inventory issues.

[Nariel]

You people are broken records with the same complain threads.

Don't want a bloated inventory? Stop hoarding crap then bitching about it.

I have every crafter and gathering class at 70 still working on getting them caught up for ShB and have 0 inventory issues.

I kinda gree with this, I hoard lot of token if not every one of them and I don't even have one retainer full of it out of two but I'm no way forced to do it neither do anyone.

[Destati]

@Everyone saying we should just throw out the old currency:

At risk of aggressively showing my hoarder mentality, the main reason why I've hung onto mine is so I can spare my future self some time if I want to exchange them for glamour. A few weeks ago I finally made use of the manifestos that were sitting in my retainer for several months. I always had that thought of "this stuff is just taking up space and I should just throw it out... but what if I need it later?" Sure enough, I did.

[Feron]

I've never understood the "memory limitations" excuse anyhow. It's like...a data ID, a quantity, and a location ID. Probably literally 20 characters.

WoW manages to give players 7 tabs of 100 storage and let 50+ people all access them simultaneously, and its 14+ years old.

...at a certain point, it just becomes incompetence.

[Melichoir]

I think we found the equivalent to "I have a black friend" for FFXIV.

Honestly, at this point it doesn't matter whether someones inventory is full or not, or if they are having trouble with said inventory. SE could have easily made 1 coin the hand out instead and it would have had the same effect.

The fact that people have to deal with 8 new items clogging up slots from the new raids is still pretty bad, considering it could be 2.

(edit: Miscount on my part.) The raid drop 8 tokens total, but you can only take 1 per week, so at max you can have 5 different items per week currently, and thats if you are for some reason not even trying to get pants/gloves/etc. Of those 8 tokens, Theres 1 for chest, 1 for helm, 1 for belt, 1 for glove, 1 for legs, 1 for boots, and 1 for accessories. 1 More for completion. That is the exact same token type amount from previous raids IIRC. And yes, it does matter that they are different. By making it 1 token for all items, it means you wont compete in any fashion for gear. So you run the instance once per week and thats it. No need to run it again after that. The fact they made more drops so you can get the items you want easier is them throwing us a bigger bone here, but of course that's not good enough.

Also, good job genius. The point of me saying "all I have to do is point to 'x'" and that works is it only takes me referencing someone who is also max level and well aware of the class and their expertise is good enough to dismiss any point he makes. It's a silly argument type, which is why I was saying he shouldnt use that position. It's quite literally like me saying "You dont have a lvl 80 DRK, so you cant comment anything about DRK." You can have insight on the class even though you dont play it. It's that simple.

Ill ignore the poorly used 'black friend' analogy...

You can't argue that you don't understand why people have inventory issues when you don't have the same experience as they do. Or barely have any jobs leveled. Of course you're not going to have inventory issues when you only have one job leveled to 80 and haven't touched 20 other jobs at all.

And this is where the issue is: Youre assuming that because you have more classes that people cant relate to inventory management issues. But that assumption is poorly thought out. As a point, what if Im keeping a lvling set for each of the gatherers. Or even gear that I hang onto for the tank sets so as I level the other tanks Ill have that gear on hand. That eats tons of inventory space. What if Im holding onto spare housing items that I cant store. It's inventory. Food stuffs, Potions, Crafting Items, Materia, Etc. Its all inventory. It doesnt matter if I have all the jobs unlocked or 1, its the fact that I can have inventory management issues just like you.

The problem is that if you assume they dont have enough perspective because 'you leveled something they dont' is setting yourself up to dismiss any valid points or criticisms because they dont have your exact set up. Thats the issue. Thats why you shouldnt be using that position. Address their points directly.

It's almost like different people have different positions. This is a public forum and I'm bringing an issue I think needs resolved. If they don't, they can come and share their input. They don't need you virtue signalling or white knighting for them.

There is no white knighting because Im not speaking on their behalf. Im pointing out why using your "Im a crafter/gatherer there fore your opinion is invalid" is a stupid position to hold because it dismisses others points by thinking you know more or have more experience then they have simply by virtue of being max level. As a point, there are plenty of max level Tanks who dont know crap about tanking, as there are plenty of players who dont play tanks who have a solid grasp of how to do it. Simply suggesting you have said class is sufficient enough to dismiss other PoVs is the problem. You want to argue your point, then use valid points, and stop relying on your level as all thats necessary to dismiss other peoples positions.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I've never understood the "memory limitations" excuse anyhow. It's like...a data ID, a quantity, and a location ID. Probably literally 20 characters.

WoW manages to give players 7 tabs of 100 storage and let 50+ people all access them simultaneously, and its 14+ years old.

...at a certain point, it just becomes incompetence.

I think thats abit harsh, and its unfair to compare to WoW.

It also comes down to Coding, the Game Engine, and many other complex things in the System.
FFXIV's "Spaghetti Code" as Ive seen go around a few times, is built in its own way that it harbors its own limitations.
But every MMO is gonna be Coded differently, not all coding will allow the same amount of resources to be spent on the same types or amounts of features