Pulling the bosses In dungeons as DPS a thing now?

[Arkenne]

This is a loss cause, really,
Just a couple days ago got one of those dashing pullers being told here.
Its not like I was going slow even, properly pulling everything that I could remember could be pulled in a single go... everything goes smoothly then when getting close to the boss room the SAM jumps dashing in onto the boss before I can even get a chance to get near the room, like... they were far ahead.
Its not like I even stopped or anything...

Oh well, I did try to ask them not to do those kinda honestly rude feeling pulls on the boss, but seriously, its a loss cause. If they are doing this its already a sing that they personality is just as trash and you will only get bothered and mortified.
I wish I could still shirk them :l

Oh well, they ALMOST died once, but hey, they were the ones pulling the boss while I was 50 yalms away =-=

[SweetestLily]

I've been seeing this alot as well and recently it has become even more so.

[Legion88]

I' never seen such things neither on Chaos nor on Light.
Must be something cultural.

[Abomination713]

You do a countdown for dungeon bosses? I thought countdown tanks were a joke! I didn't know they were real! I have never done a single countdown for a dungeon boss since I started in 2.0. There's no reason to do that. You deserved to be kicked.

Now I'm reading some people do a ready check for dungeon bosses!? I'm so glad I main tank. I already can't stand other tanks when I'm healing in dungeons as it is.

[cjparmen]

As someone who mained a BRD for four years before recently switching mains to DRK, and actually using those four years to properly learn DPS gameplay and even clearing a lot of high-end content, all I can say is this.


This kind of thinking is DPS Arrogance in its finest.


Our job as a DPS is to support the tank and healer by burning down enemies ASAP.
While I agree that DPS pulling bosses is only a minor inconvenience, when DPS start behaving arrogantly and start pulling additional mobs that the tanks/healers don't want to deal with at the moment, then yeah, the tank/healer deserves to let that DPS die.


Why? Because that DPS is being full of himself/herself by thinking that they lead the party, when that job belongs to the tank. In other words, DPS that try to steal the tank's job ARE NOT playing their role properly... and in my opinion, deserves to be kicked more than an angry tank that just wants to do their job in peace.


So for any DPS with that kind of arrogance, heed my words as a fellow DPS:


Do your dang job and learn your place. In the end, tanks and healers have insta-queues; you do NOT.

then might i ask you this question, is it alright for the tank ( yes i am talking about myself here) to run a head and pull a new mob if the mob the team is fighting is mostly dead? ( ie like one or two enemies left but at less the maybe 5%hp).

back on topic tho with the new tanking structure sure getting aggro is much like pissing in a full bucket, it really amounts to nothing. that being said it does still urk me to see the DPS rush in when idk if everyone is ready or not. i havent yet in ShB content let a DPS die because he pulled a boss but in like HW and SB i have a few times literaly sat down and waited to be locked out of the boss fight because of it. still i think the issue was lack of comms, i at least warn people if they are pulling to much ot to soon and after like the 3rd time sure let the DPS eat a tank buster and pray they learn, but also keep in mind as a tank it is your job to protect the team, so long as said fight dosent end in a wipe it should all be good, but if the team wipes well then its both your faults.

[cjparmen]

You do a countdown for dungeon bosses? I thought countdown tanks were a joke! I didn't know they were real! I have never done a single countdown for a dungeon boss since I started in 2.0. There's no reason to do that. You deserved to be kicked.

Now I'm reading some people do a ready check for dungeon bosses!? I'm so glad I main tank. I already can't stand other tanks when I'm healing in dungeons as it is.

you have this mindset now but just wait till you pull the boss and the healer has no mana to keep you alive.

[SleepyFox12]

So you look at his mana bar before pulling. If it's above half you're fine, none of the current dungeon bosses need much healing unless you fail at mechanics or don't use your cd's.
It's pretty much regen/fairy only with the occasional oGCD heal thrown in and a proper heal or two after a tankbuster. Most of the time they're dpsing.

I've never used a countdown in a normal 4 man dungeon and i've never seen another tank use one either.

[Lapisluzili]

As a healer main who ocassionally tanks but stopped because of idiots like this, all I can say is:

They pull it, they Tank it.

DPS don't pull. Healers don't pull. It's rude. You're being rude, arrogant, and just an overall nuisance. Nobody cares about you or your giant ego. This is a videogame, not a war. Have some god dang common decency. Did your mother never teach you manners? YOu have that? You know what common sense is?

Looking at those replies, a lot of people in this forum don't, and it's sad. Kindergarten.

If a healer or dps wants a tank to pull more, they can simply ask. Normally, in a normal tone, without annoyed smileys or passive-aggressive 's
Just stop. Asking like a normal person won't ducking kill you, and if it makes you uncomfortable, then YOU are the problem and need to see some professional help, because being annoyed by common decency is not normal.

Nobody cares about you when you run ahead and pull. Nobody gives a single s. You aren't cool, you aren't funny, you're a troll and annoying and you're making everyone miserable with your idiocity. Go learn some manners, then try again.

If a DPS or Heal pulls ahead, no matter if it's a boss or a small or big pull, they deserve to die. You want bigger pulls in this expac where big pulls are stupid? Ask.
You want bigger pulls in SASTASHA where almost no one has AoE? That's weird and dumb but at least ASK.

It doesn't matter WHY you want bigger or faster pulls. Nobody cares. Everyone in this game just cares about themselves by the end of the day, so stop thinking you're special. The run doesn't revolve around you, it never does.

No matter why you want it, ask. If you can't treat HUMAN BEINGS that are simply playing a game with normal, most-basic common decency, then you shouldn't be playing an MMO, or interact with any person in any way ever, because clearly you aren't capable of doing so in a normal and proper way.

Yes, I am annoyed.

[RoseyDevlin]

Few days ago I had similar situation when I was lvling up my paladin in roulettes. I got normal Haukke Manor and was in a team where healer was still conjurer with low gear and had a dragoon mentor in my team who kept pulling the mobs ahead while running. I told drg to stop pulling mobs as its my job to do so and he/she responded that its so low dungeon that it doesn't matter as I can easily get aggro back. Now if I had friends who I knew in my pt doing this I would not see it as rude but if random person starts running and pulling huge mobs without saying just because its low dungeon its just disrespectful towards the tank. Healer himself had hard time doing good heals cause of not so good gear along with conjurer class who is 1-2 lvls behind dungeon lvl aswell. Most times we almost wiped because of this so just saying in here that its flatout rude thing to do no matter what dungeon you get.

[SpookyGhost]

Have never understood the mentality of "you pull it, you tank it". Yes, it's less efficient for DPS to pull - congratulations, you've earned yourself a pat on the back. Is it really the end of the world if the DPS do pull, though? And if a healer pulls I can't even figure out what you're mad at - they're the ones that'll have to fix up their missing HP, you just have to get the mobs off them. I mean, you're going to hit them with an AOE skill anyway, so realistically what's the difference? Same with DPS. Unless they literally die from pulling, the only one who should really care is the healer. Your job, as the tank, is to hold aggro on the mob(s) and mitigate damage - it is now easier than ever before to get hate off DPS/healers, so there's really no excuse for you to "teach them a lesson". If you have a problem with them pulling, then feel free to bring it up to them, but soapboxing on the forums about how DPS pulling is suuuuuch a pain isn't going to get you anywhere.