Shadowbringers is the best FF anything in years

[Kazahashi]

Yoshida SHOULD NOT be in charge of the entire FF branch. O_O Maybe the main writer of SHB, who is phenomenal and has made FFXIV more like FF than the past few expansions, but not Yoshida. Hell, it's even more like FF than 13-15. I'd like to see the original team back... But I definitely wouldn't mind main writer of SHB to take lead. I can't remember her name. I'm sorry, I love you I'm just shit at new names. ;;

I'm not upset at all here with this opinion, I'm genuinely curious why you don't think he should be in charge of the FF brand? He's done more spot on directing for FF games, and better handling of projects than any of the other big names have. I just don't understand why he wouldn't be a preferable choice?

I don't think a writer would be the best option, because one of the biggest strengths of FF is the different writers that bring different things to the table. But for instance, look at XV's direction....it was all over the place. I mean, there's no need to get into it much because everyone already knows the issues with that game. Besides, if Yoshida was over-seeing the brand as a whole, it doesn't mean he'd be directing every single game in the series....there would still be room for other people to come in and make their mark directing as well.

I just feel like Nomura, Tabata, those guys....their magic has run out, at least to me.

But yeah, I'd love to hear your opinion.

[Tsukino]

Heavensward was better.

Everyone has different opinions. I thought Heavensward was the low point even though I see more people hating on Stormblood overall.

They hyped up this big secret about why the dragons and Ishgard have been fighting forever and then the big reveal came and it felt like absolutely nothing. I never figured out why I should care about the dragons or the Ishgardians. Alphinaud was still in every damned cutscene even though he's the worst scion and an obvious crutch for the fact they don't give your own PC enough lines. And to top it all off, it may have been a coincidence but the whole thing felt like "dragons are the It Thing right now, so we have to do a story about dragons like everyone else."

[Kazahashi]

Everyone has different opinions. I thought Heavensward was the low point even though I see more people hating on Stormblood overall.

They hyped up this big secret about why the dragons and Ishgard have been fighting forever and then the big reveal came and it felt like absolutely nothing. I never figured out why I should care about the dragons or the Ishgardians. Alphinaud was still in every damned cutscene even though he's the worst scion and an obvious crutch for the fact they don't give your own PC enough lines. And to top it all off, it may have been a coincidence but the whole thing felt like "dragons are the It Thing right now, so we have to do a story about dragons like everyone else."

I have to agree here....I felt like the whole dragon aspect was boring. I've felt like dragons in general have been over used in fantasy for a long time though, they're played out I think.

Not knocking your opinion Edax, hell, I WISH I enjoyed HW as much as you did.

[Edax]

I have to agree here....I felt like the whole dragon aspect was boring. I've felt like dragons in general have been over used in fantasy for a long time though, they're played out I think.

Not knocking your opinion Edax, hell, I WISH I enjoyed HW as much as you did.

I viewed the dragons as an allegory for those grudges people have against crimes or wars of nations and races that happened generations ago. People in China and Korea are still very bitter over what happened in WW2, it may still end up sparking a war.
I found it more topical then a villain who argues for mass genocide whom I've seen hundreds of times now. Heck even the Warriors of Darkness in the Dragonsong War were the new genocide-villians for a time. That was not HW's strong point.

Isn't Emet just a new version of Sephiroth? He tries to destroy the world because he think he's an Ancient and he's repulsed by "humanity".

[Kazahashi]

I viewed the dragons as an allegory for those grudges people have against crimes or wars of nations and races that happened generations ago. People in China and Korea are still very bitter over what happened in WW2, it may still end up sparking a war.
I found it more topical then a villain who argues for mass genocide whom I've seen hundreds of times now. Heck even the Warriors of Darkness in the Dragonsong War were the new genocide-villians for a time. That was not HW's strong point.

I can see why you liked it.

For me, it wasn't Emet's motivations that made me root for him as a villain, but his character itself....the presentation of it was great. There was hints of Kefka in him, at least to me. And I greatly enjoyed that as a whole.

[Selova]

While HW was great it doesnt really hold a candle from both a narrative viewpoint as well as the scope of the story to Shadowbringers. Theres not only way more at stake but also conclusions to Years of lore build up, especially things that revolve around the ascians.


Its pretty obvious that Shadowbringers has had more of a emotional impact on those who have been invested into the story for years like myself. Nothing in HW was able to evoke this level of emotion from the players and I think that speaks for itself.

[Kazahashi]

I'm sensing that the general consensus on SB though, is that no one will claim it was their favorite by a mile. XD

[Edax]

I'm sensing that the general consensus on SB though, is that no one will claim it was their favorite by a mile. XD

SB is a mess. It's a story divided into two that turns the WoL into a side character and worst of all, it feels like Stormblood has no conclusion. We confront the villain, but he commits suicide instead. But that suicide means nothing because the villain is still walking around and he has no goals beyond instant gratifications. On the list of villains, Zenos is low on my list. All he wants to do is fight...but when we fought him, he decided to cut his own throat instead. It feels like the writing is just spinning its wheels in the mud. And I can't even suspend my disbelief that Ambassador Ashai would ever be devoted to Zenos. There's nothing likable about the Zenos and I struggle to comprehend that anyone would moune this guy besides Yotsuyu. Who wants to devote themselves to guy that's bored and selfish? If Zenos liked fighting then why get all bent out of shape that Zenos actually when down in a fight? The writing is just so bad. And Zenos is immortal now, why ever would he care about fighting when there's nothing risk anymore? Oh forget it......



Shadowbringers thankfully, tells a complete story. It had the good sense to stay focused on the First.

[Wyvernheart]

I for one, loved the SB story. It felt unfinished for a reason and that's because we got sidetracked into SHB. It will be finished in the next expansion. Though it will have a strong lead in from ShB. The capital city is next.

[Gula]

I'm sensing that the general consensus on SB though, is that no one will claim it was their favorite by a mile. XD

If you're a huge weeaboo, probably.