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  1. #111
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    I haven't played any NieR games, but from how people talk about them, I can guess what I'm in for. T_T

    I have a feeling I'm gonna have to go call the Exarch "G'raha" at least 20 times to recover. lol
    Just pray we don't get too much Drakengard thrown in as well. Or else that means Taro was serious about bringing someone else's game crashing down with him this year.

    Its bad enough having to go past that plant of foreshadowing in the 79 dungeon.
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  2. #112
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    Haruane's Avatar
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    Ni'yo Kjaresh
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Doesn't matter.
    Sexuality is a very slippery slope.
    Just because you, and other don't see it as a problem, others will.
    Just a short text here, cause I have to read all the text here you wrote today and I'm not through it...

    In FFXIV it seems to be NO problem if a character is straight, gay or lesbian. There are lots of references to show you that it's not important which gender do you like to love.
    Two examples: The two guys for the dungeon-quest "Palace of the wanderer (hard)" (if that's the english name, don't know). They are a hyur and a miqo'te, both male and obviously a couple in love. And they tell you that they have problems at their home because they're a couple. But not because of the fact they're both male, but because of the fact that they're hyur and miqo'te.
    Second example: If you do the quest for the eternal bond there is this girl in the goldsmith-guild. She says to you she haven't found the right person for her. Don't know how it is in english, but in german she clearly talks about the right guy or girl, leaving herself both options and it sounds like that is no problem at all.
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  3. #113
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    ASaturnus's Avatar
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    Shaire Grayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post

    This won't even be a thing since most "think" there is a romance undertone when it isn't since nobody seems to understand what admiration seems to looks like and our WoL isn't attracted to anybody cannon wise.
    Honestly, if someone - in RL - told you that he or she wants to stay by your side, constantly praises you and cares about your wellbeing, you would never guess that that person might possibly have feelings for you? Ok, it might "only" be admiration, but the borders between admiration and romance are fluid. And it`s impossible to say that one is there without a hint of the other.
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  4. #114
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    I want flirting for Magnai : P

    Also Byakko as humanoid form when I'll flirt him
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  5. #115
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASaturnus View Post
    Honestly, if someone - in RL - told you that he or she wants to stay by your side, constantly praises you and cares about your wellbeing, you would never guess that that person might possibly have feelings for you? Ok, it might "only" be admiration, but the borders between admiration and romance are fluid. And it`s impossible to say that one is there without a hint of the other.
    My mum does this and I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to bone me. I hope.

    Most folks of this line of thinking also believe that Lyna has a crush on the Exarch due to how much she cares when actually she sees him as a grandfather figure. Anywho, as lovely as the WoL/WoD is - I'm sure there must be some people out there who just want to be friends and still treat them this in this way - because they care about them and have no intention of getting into their pants.

    Would I mind having the flirt option? Nah, as long as it doesn't divert resources into the whole thing. This should only be allowed if the whole thing with 'Marry NPCs' etc should be brought in, so there's a mass amount to chose from instead of just, one. Not that I'd use it, but least it's fair.

    As long as it doesn't get weird as Dragon Age 2 did, where when you told Anders you weren't interested you came across as a nob. Romance options should never be forced, and flirt options should be able to be picked without it being a lock in. It's a bit difficult for a MMO. Not even SWTOR got it right. -Shudders at the memory of playing M consular and being shoved into a romance with Nadia Grell for just being 'nice'.-
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 07-16-2019 at 02:35 AM.

  6. #116
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    People also seem to forget that one can flirt with someone without having romantic intentions. Also since we are talking about simple dialogue options and not fully fleshed out romance arcs, one could always choose to not choose the dialogue option they dislike. It would not hurt anyone and does not have to evolve into deeper romance.
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  7. #117
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    Alleluia's Avatar
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    Regana Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    My mum does this and I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to bone me. I hope.
    I don't think the Exarch is your mum, though. :P

    Also, I haven't seen anyone here claim that "Lyna has a crush on the Exarch" thing. I could see someone thinking that before the events around Innocence, but once you get past there, she outright says he raised her and is a grandfather to her. (Or some other NPC does and she just states the sentiment post-MSQ if you small talk her, I can't recall.) Either way, its right there in the in-game dialogue. And, if there's anything you can accuse people who want this G'raha flirt option of, its paying attention to in-game dialogue. lol

    As for the rest of your post, basically I'm seeing "Its ok to have a flirt, just don't make it stupid." And I'd agree on that.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schan View Post
    I personally disagree.

    The way I see it he puts you on a pedestal. It's the sole reason why I can never see any romantic bond develop between the WoL and any NPC. You are seen as someone far above them. I normally call it the "Pyrrha effect" only because it's the most "recent" thing i've seen that mentions things that way was RWBY. For those who don't know Pyrrha was the best student fighter and when a dance came around no one invited her. Her friends assumed she would be showered with requests because she is THAT popular. As she basically says.. when you're put on a pedestal... it creates distance from the "normal people".

    The WoL is the best fighter, the Hero, the person who dosn't give up on others and genuinely likes to help people without asking much in return. How can anyone look at someone like that and not think "well that's way out of my league."

    Yes you are worshipped but I don't see it in a romantic way and shoehorning it would be cringe worthy.

    I see the Exarch as a massive fan. He deserved a hug though.
    Even Warriors of Light need love (and sex if the quicksands is any indication) too.
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  9. #119
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Please do NOT add this. Just...ew.
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  10. #120
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    Ellisuur Muur
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    Kind of ridiculous how some people see intense hero worship and a drive to save someone from destruction as "romantic". You need to remember that (heavy spoilers)

    During the giant talos questline when you speak to him, he mentions bonding himself to the tower to extend his life indefinitely so he has a chance to complete his work... keep this in mind.

    After defeating Innocence, during the flashback scene with G'raha and Urianger, G'raha mentions that in the original timeline Cid and co. had spent the remainder of their lives searching for some way to stop the 8th Umbral Calamity (concluding that saving you, arguably the greatest champion their world has ever known, was the only way) and ultimately failed, but their work was left for future generations to follow. It had taken the survivors two centuries to awaken the Crystal Tower from stasis, and by extension, G'raha, its caretaker, and he was still a very young man at that point. He doesn't say how long he was working with the ones who woke him before he shifted the Tower to the First so I won't take that into account, but the shift was imperfect and placed him nearly a century before he intended to arrive, so tack on one hundred years to the plan.

    G'raha states quite clearly to Urianger that the only thing keeping those who hadn't sunken into despair going were the tales of the WoL... and G'raha read/heard them all. Remember the end of the Crystal Tower questline? Before the tower is sealed, he tells you he'll be eager to learn of your exploits whenever he wakes up... that he knows you will be remembered for the hero you are.

    Literally, what made the survivors get up in the morning and push on was hope, nothing more, nothing less. All of this obviously affected G'raha deeply, and ensuring the future never came to pass was pretty much his singular focus. That's... incredible, when you think about it, to be so driven; he made himself immortal to carry hopes and dreams of others, not giving a damn as to how long it would take, or that death would await him at the end... a heavy burden.

    Crystal Exarch: She was the lodestar that brought them all together, to send their final message back through time and space... to her. "The light of your legacy was our torch in the darkness. Burn bright... and live."
    Crystal Exarch: History remembered the Warrior of Light, as I knew it would, and I will suffer no other to rescue the champion whose star has charted my course.
    ...Boy, he wasn't kidding. All of that was over three centuries in the making, and he labored for around a hundred (possibly more) of those years trying to save you. While I wouldn't mind a flirt option or something theoretically, romantic feelings clearly aren't the case here.


    In the end, you weren't just a hero (and friend! CT quesline!) to him; you became his hero. ...'Scuse me while I grab a tissue.
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