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  1. #41
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    just dont go into content that is to hard for you
    there i solved your problem
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  2. #42
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    CaesarCV's Avatar
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    Faire Eravyn
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoberraz View Post
    Hello again, this is the opening poster.
    First off, thanks for chipping in. I got a great dea of encouragement... and what it help me with was the pressure. I was kind of taking it personally. As it is, I just made it to WHM 80. Yay! \o/ Now that I have my three roles, I'll continue the MSQ and unlock the last lv80 dungeon and trial.
    Congratulations on making it! The end of the story is really exciting, so have some fun!

    Going to echo what some people here have said. It's easy to forget how in Leveling Dungeons things are a bit harder, especially when people (notably tanks) don't actually gear or anything. In addition, whenever there's bigger changes to classes like this, people have to get readjusted and reacquainted with their abilities. As a SCH I certainly had to get used to managing my Mana without Energy Drain anymore, for example. And that makes early dungeons (especially for inexperienced Tanks of which there are a TON at the moment) much more difficult than usual. As people progress, their gear will improve, and they'll get used to their new mechanics. DPS players will figure out how to optimize their rotations, Tanks will figure out when to use their cooldowns effectively, and Healers will come up with fun combos and the like. It all gets easier eventually!
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  3. #43
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    Jerichai's Avatar
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    Koppo Sandstar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    just dont go into content that is to hard for you
    there i solved your problem
    That's...terrible advice...

    If you ever want to improve, you need to confront harder content to see where you need improvement.
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  4. #44
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelanar View Post
    This goes to show how much previous expansions focused our healer mindset towards DPS. Shadowbringers is but a step towards making things 'right' again by having healers actually heal.
    Spoken like a true DPS main
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  5. #45
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    LadyKairi's Avatar
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    Kaja White
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerichai View Post
    That's...terrible advice...

    If you ever want to improve, you need to confront harder content to see where you need improvement.
    Not only that, but the dungeons OP was having issues with were leveling dungeons. Dungeons you HAVE to do to progress through the MSQ. You can’t just not do them. I echo the terrible advice.
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  6. #46
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    kartana's Avatar
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    Celicy Darian
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Also, A Macro that I swear by is:
    /micon "Broil"
    /merror off
    /ac "Broil" <t>
    /ac "Broil" <tt>
    This doesn't let you queue up Broil though, so you have to hit it right at the point when the cast ends.
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  7. #47
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelanar View Post
    This goes to show how much previous expansions focused our healer mindset towards DPS. Shadowbringers is but a step towards making things 'right' again by having healers actually heal.
    There's a difference between merely healing and playing a healer well. There is, however, absolutely no difference in how healers, on the whole, work between this expansion or any prior iteration of the game. We see merely a continuation of the usual trend: as healer oGCDs are added to or power-creeped, we need even fewer GCDs of healing.

    If you want to spend the majority of your actually healing, I suggest you go find some min ilvl Extreme ARR content and solo-heal it so that you can at least go 50/50 on the healing to damage ratio.
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  8. #48
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I've leveled WHM from 70 to 80 doing exclusively wall to wall dungeons. Sometimes with bad tanks, sometimes with good tanks and I never struggled. There is so much stuff I can use to heal on WHM it's insane. Bubble, Assize, Tetra, Beni, lily spenders and Divine Benison. That and for half the duration they are stunned because I'm spamming holy like a madman. Time to realise you have plenty of room to improve. It's not been difficult at all. It's you that are not using the tools available to you in a good fashion. Sounds rough, but that's the way it is.
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  9. #49
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    On all healers, but especially WHM, dps is largely how you keep your tank alive in wall-to-wall pulls.
    You're mistaking have good dps(teammates) with dpsing as a healer when your tank needs heals. Holy til it's worthless is fine but all the matters is that everyone is still alive by the time your mana hits 0. Wall-to-wall pulls are largely about actually healing.

    You'll heal more than you'll use holy that's for sure.
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  10. #50
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I think it feels like that at the start of each expansion.
    Your equipment is no longer on point, you are learning new skills, healing tanks also adapting to their job change.
    So it can get messy pretty fast but it will get better.

    I personally see a huge difference in playing SCH at the start of the expansion and now after farming the primals (better equipment and a better understanding of my toolbox)
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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