Feedback: Please continue to develop Viera / Hrothgar Character Customization

[IveraIvalice]

I don’t know if they will fix them. This reminds me of Au Ra when everyone asked them to separate the horns from the faces and they didn’t do that, and that seemed like a simple thing to do. There was only one combination of horns/face I would have used and since I couldn’t choose both, I don’t play Au Ra now.

I hope you guys get your fixes. It’s just SE seems to do this and I don’t know why. Now that’s it’s already done they are gonna say it can’t be done because it wasn’t done like that originally

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I wonder how many of these threads the Forum is gonna get....
These Complaints, the Feedback, Critique....this stuff has already been addressed by YoshiP himself.

He makes no Promises on Male Viera or Female Hrothgar.
But everything else was already addressed and being worked on. Be patient people. Constantly making these threads isn't gonna make it happen any faster

[LittleArrow]

I wonder how many of these threads the Forum is gonna get....
These Complaints, the Feedback, Critique....this stuff has already been addressed by YoshiP himself.

He makes no Promises on Male Viera or Female Hrothgar.
But everything else was already addressed and being worked on. Be patient people. Constantly making these threads isn't gonna make it happen any faster

Could you please link the direct quotes of where Yoshi P said these things? Maybe video links during interviews / fanfests or in articles? That would be super appreciated.

If you take a quick glance at the comments, I think you'll find confusion on if these features will be addressed or not. Most people either don't know or "heard somewhere." Not at all trying to be rude, but what I'm asking for is not wholly unexpected. Also, I have not seen many threads discussing this. There is one thread back when the benchmark was released that questioned the Hrothgars face being tied to hair and briefly discussed viea's hair options being very limited, but no official request thread I had seen has been made. Please correct me if I'm wrong ^^

Also, I've seen a majority of positive and helpful feedback. Many players are very happy with this expansion, bar the feedback that seem far more personal (I agree with the villains therefore I hate the story? I had a bad experience in a party therefore the whole game is garbage, I don't like the content that is being released therefore my opinion is objectively a factual point to debate with). By all means I'm not trying to say those players shouldn't give feedback, but I do see my feedback as different given the evidence of the quality of content given thus far compared to what we have now. [EDIT] I did include my opinion with the feedback to provide a little bit of cause / effect for the devs to know how this has impacted my gameplay, but I still think the majority of my feedback was appropriately placed. I do think opinions are appropriate feedback, because that is the effect of the game on it's player's experience, which I do believe is absolutely essential for the devs to know. I just wanted to elaborate on a few of the comments this feedback has received, however.

Also, I never intended to sound whiny or impatient. I waited after launch to see if there would be any announcements or comments from the devs or gms. I also did not demand this to be done now, or next patch, or the next patch after that. I simply asked for this to be taken into consideration.

Thanks for the responses, I still hope SE will address these issues and fix them, because this is a wonderfully crafted game!

[CorbinDallas]

I don't get why Viera players want headgear that hides the ears, the defining feature of the race, can someone enlighten me? Or is the the desire for hats with ear holes, like Miqote?

As a happy Hrothgar anything that hides my face/head is a big no no for me personally (outside of the meme hats like the frog/pig), otherwise I may as well go back to Roe.

[Avidria]

I don't get why Viera players want headgear that hides the ears, the defining feature of the race, can someone enlighten me? Or is the the desire for hats with ear holes, like Miqote?

As a happy Hrothgar anything that hides my face/head is a big no no for me personally (outside of the meme hats like the frog/pig), otherwise I may as well go back to Roe.

I'd be ok with hats that have ear holes. Let my ears poke out of hats, whatever. It's gotten to the point where I just have to laugh every time I try on a helmet and there's just nothing there xD

Luckily some of my favs do show - the summer sunglasses, for instance. Some glasses do seem to rest a bit oddly on the nose, but I'm glad they show at all. Also a fan of the paladin artifact helmet, though it's really more of a forehead chain?

But yeah it's really a matter of having more options. And being able to use some of those stylish bard hats I've collected over the years...

[Haprimac]

I don't have the exact quote but didn't the team say some hairstyles would be included in upcoming patches but not all? Sure I would love to see all of them and additional customization for Hrothgar. I don't think we'll get everything we want but they do appear to be working on adding a lot more.

I think that refers to hairstyles that aren't available on miqo'te either, like the what used to be roegadyn-locked Skrillex and bald+ponytail styles. As in, hairstyles that would look weird AF without humanoid ears.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Could you please link the direct quotes of where Yoshi P said these things? Maybe video links during interviews / fanfests or in articles? That would be super appreciated.

If you take a quick glance at the comments, I think you'll find confusion on if these features will be addressed or not. Most people either don't know or "heard somewhere." Not at all trying to be rude, but what I'm asking for is not wholly unexpected. Also, I have not seen many threads discussing this. There is one thread back when the benchmark was released that questioned the Hrothgars face being tied to hair and briefly discussed viea's hair options being very limited, but no official request thread I had seen has been made. Please correct me if I'm wrong ^^

Also, I've seen a majority of positive and helpful feedback. Many players are very happy with this expansion, bar the feedback that seem far more personal (I agree with the villains therefore I hate the story? I had a bad experience in a party therefore the whole game is garbage, I don't like the content that is being released therefore my opinion is objectively a factual point to debate with). By all means I'm not trying to say those players shouldn't give feedback, but I do see my feedback as different given the evidence of the quality of content given thus far compared to what we have now. [EDIT] I did include my opinion with the feedback to provide a little bit of cause / effect for the devs to know how this has impacted my gameplay, but I still think the majority of my feedback was appropriately placed. I do think opinions are appropriate feedback, because that is the effect of the game on it's player's experience, which I do believe is absolutely essential for the devs to know. I just wanted to elaborate on a few of the comments this feedback has received, however.

Also, I never intended to sound whiny or impatient. I waited after launch to see if there would be any announcements or comments from the devs or gms. I also did not demand this to be done now, or next patch, or the next patch after that. I simply asked for this to be taken into consideration.

Thanks for the responses, I still hope SE will address these issues and fix them, because this is a wonderfully crafted game!

Translated Famitsu Article from E3:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_source=share

[official_coconut]

I agree that these are reasonable things to ask for. I especially want my Blackbosom Hat
back for Viera. Also don't pay attention when someone is calling people requesting stuff "whiny." It seems to be a trend that anytime someone is not 100% satisfied that people who are ok with things being incomplete decide to say things like that. Viera are amazing but I'm not unaware of the fact that them and Hrothgar are limited races.

[Duskane]

definitely would be nice to wear all the AF helmets

[LittleArrow]

Translated Yoshi P statement:
"Since Hrothgar have hairstyles tied to their character creation options rather than being separately selectable, you will not be able to apply unlockable hairstyles, but they might implement more face types after 5.0. As for Viera, there's some legacy haristyles they'll able to eventually implement, but not all of them. Some of unlockable hairstyles should be supported, others may not be."

So, this is a very vague statement. On one hand, it's translated by... someone, I don't know who. I clicked the source link and there weren't any official english translations, so to take this translation at face value is taking it with a HUGE grain of salt. Secondly, the statement itself is very open ended and does not address the real issue (imo) of the races.

Hrothgar: The faces SHOULD NOT BE TIED to the hairstyles. This insinuates that 1. Paid for hairstyles MAY or MAY NOT work - that's a very huge grey area that leaves a lot of wiggle room for the developers. 2. Adding faces (imo) seems like a pretty big undertaking, so the devs tying more hairstyles directly with more faces seems like they're putting far more work ahead of them instead of just adding hairstyles alone. In other words, this feature (more hairstyles) means more faces, which is a lot of work.

Viera: Some of the hairstyles will be unlocked, some won't. Again, big grey area.

Look, I know this is a lot of work, and I can definitely see them wanting to put their focus on the overall experience (story / jobs / environment / effects) over more customization. My name is not Ms. Final Fantasy XIV or Ms. Square Enix, I'm fully aware this is not -my- game. However, our feedback HAS shaped this game.

Just a few examples of how feedback has changed this game:
1. There is no longer an XP 'cooldown' or block - you can get as much xp as you want anytime you want
2. The entire aetheryte / fast travel system
3. Marketboards
4. Male Miqote, Female Roegadyn, Female Highlander
5. Ishgard in its entirety
Plus many many more features (movable HUD, UI settings, etc etc)

Am I saying players are solely responsible for these changes? Well... to a degree, yes. I'm sure Yoshi had planned on adding some of these features, but if you enjoy any of those, you have us on the forums, whining and complaining, to thank for these being implemented.

There's always positive and negative feedback. There's a right way and a very wrong way to give feedback.

Honestly, Viera and Hrothgar and Yoshi's statement just isn't acceptable. It doesn't mean this game is terrible. It doesn't mean people should quit. It doesn't mean.. honestly much in the long term of things. However, these are still features that SHOULD be in the game in holding true to their commitment to making this a fully quality experience.

So please, SE, change your mind on these races and take the time and resources to complete them. Let them be the last, fully, completed races!