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    Hmm, I personally think the Viera are matriarchal in their society - but males do not conform to society, they are separate. However, the matriarchal part might actually come from the fact the spirit they worship and follow is female. The spirit they follow/worship also talks to them and communicates with them. Every Viera can do this barring those who 'leave' the wood who end up deaf to the wood. Anyway, the males talk to, protect and worship this female spirit. Not the Matriarch. The female spirit also sees them all as equal. Why the spirit wishes the males to be separate from the females - we do not know. But she does and if we're lucky we might find out. We do know that Viera were, not like this before, this way of life was a form of adaption after they lost their true homes millennia ago.

    While with the Vii, they have a female chieftain, yes - but they followed the orders of a male Emperor. So this is not entirely matriarchal.

    I wonder if the Viera in the wood has something that is akin to the 'Echo' in regards to this. Seeing as the Vii in the first were chosen to protect and bodyguard ancient texts and stories of the 'truth' of Zodiark and Mama Crystal. What if the Viera on the source are the same, but with most having the echo to talk to the manifestation of the wood. Remember that 'Vii' do not have this, the wood does not speak to them. Nor is there anything that hints the dulling of their hearing to understand the words of the wood when they leave it. Nor was there anything that hinted that the Vii had the same type of powers that the Viera had where they could hear and talk through the void itself/through the different fragments of the source and thus made amazing summoners due to this - I'm interested to see if this is true in FF14 as it is in the previous games and if Square will use this.

    Can't forget that those who leave the wood - in the source - aren't called Viera anymore due to them turning back on the spirit of the wood and that lifestyle. Which can be argued, physically dulls them to the point their hearing can't hear/understand the wood anymore. It makes me wonder how that works. Why does being in the wood have them be able to understand or hear while leaving it has them going 'deaf' to it.

    As I do recall in Golmore jungle - as we already know by the 24man - there is a huge abundance of crystals. It also houses ultima who is trying to replicate/copy the mother crystal - right down to her pose where she stands in the crystals when comes to images of a humanoid mama crystal in the old artworks of FF online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
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    My bet currently is, on 6.0 not only do we recive the missing genders but we go to both the viera and hrotgar homelands, which are packed with them (female hrotgar should be extemely abundant here going by lore, and male viera could also just be friendly to us if the spirit accepts us, theyll likely do it mostly to sell fantasias just like theyve tried their best to stuff female viera down our throats this expac) and we will learn about why they were genderlock, why they arent now and I think tis likely a male viera will play a rather important role in the storyline, while the hrotgar queen will likely be the main character of her zone.

    I think we will also find out about why the spirit of the woods wants/wanted them to live like that, and I'm rather possitive that female hrotgar will be like, ok either we move out from here or garlemand destroys our butts, so they'll leave their homeland
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    My bet currently is, on 6.0 not only do we recive the missing genders but we go to both the viera and hrotgar homelands, which are packed with them (female hrotgar should be extemely abundant here going by lore, and male viera could also just be friendly to us if the spirit accepts us, theyll likely do it mostly to sell fantasias just like theyve tried their best to stuff female viera down our throats this expac) and we will learn about why they were genderlock, why they arent now and I think tis likely a male viera will play a rather important role in the storyline, while the hrotgar queen will likely be the main character of her zone.

    I think we will also find out about why the spirit of the woods wants/wanted them to live like that, and I'm rather possitive that female hrotgar will be like, ok either we move out from here or garlemand destroys our butts, so they'll leave their homeland
    I have a sneaking suspicion that they were gender locked due to time constraints and resources. I might be wrong though, but maybe you are right and there is actually a lore reason behind it all! I predict the entire next expansion will be about male viera, and why they are 5'1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I have a sneaking suspicion that they were gender locked due to time constraints and resources. I might be wrong though, but maybe you are right and there is actually a lore reason behind it all! I predict the entire next expansion will be about male viera, and why they are 5'1.
    ?????? I know that its because of resources, but they changed the lore so itd make sense theyre genderlock??? No one asked about 5,1 male viera, I wanted them to be at maximum 6 cm shorter/taller than females? Lore isnt the reason at all, and the entire next expansion wont be about male viera? Just how much must u really love drama to take that from my statement lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    ?????? I know that its because of resources, but they changed the lore so itd make sense theyre genderlock??? No one asked about 5,1 male viera, I wanted them to be at maximum 6 cm shorter/taller than females? Lore isnt the reason at all, and the entire next expansion wont be about male viera? Just how much must u really love drama to take that from my statement lol
    They're just having a laugh, Zeylos. Haha. I think it's probably because you can be poked into confusion/rage with little effort. Just want to ruffle your hair.

    Anyway, yeah, it's definitely resources and not lore. I'm very thankful they actually told us the truth rather than hiding behind the lore excuse which we all knew was a bit 'bull.'
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