As a player who's never been reported, why aren't behavior penalties ever forgiven?

[Vivi_Bushido]

I mean, that GM was definitely in the right on this one. ERP "cheated"? Take that to discord. Unless you are joking?

I'm not. But ERP was against the rules of their relationship. So who am I to judge.

[Diggles]

Oh it get's worse than that.

I had a friend get GM jailed because their girlfriend ERP cheated on them in-game and he blew up cussing her and the guy she cheated with. The guy she cheated on with thought the boyfriend was being immature and reported him for harassment and telling him how to play his game. Needless to say, the guy who was cheated on got in trouble and the GM told him the mature thing to do would had been to just silently block both.

Uh... how is that worse? Guy cusses someone out and gets reported, but you just glossed over what he did to deserve it. It doesn’t matter why he did it - it was perfectly justified to ban him.

That’s why I have a REALLY hard time taking these posts seriously. There’s always more to the story or some convenient detail left out or glossed over. Everyone likes to think that they/their friends are perfectly innocent.

[Wigett]

I personally think there needs to be some kind of appeal process. where you get to tell your side and then maybe a group of 3 make a final ruling or something. the power given to gm's mods is that of a judge appointed for life, so u get bad ones and it screws over the truth to the whim of one person who, them selves may be acting incorrectly. just my .02

[Granyala]

I agree. Sadly the GMs do not. I got temporally banned once for posting a meme that said Oh great not this discussion again. The email said it was because it contributed nothing relevant to the conversation and now that strike follows me for the rest of my life.

In the forum?
That I can understand. Most forum Mods will not look fondly on mindlessly posted memes or spam, it's their job to keep threads readable and on topic.

In game?
That would be ridiculous.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Uh... how is that worse? Guy cusses someone out and gets reported, but you just glossed over what he did to deserve it. It doesn’t matter why he did it - it was perfectly justified to ban him.

That’s why I have a REALLY hard time taking these posts seriously. There’s always more to the story or some convenient detail left out or glossed over. Everyone likes to think that they/their friends are perfectly innocent.

I'm not gonna pretend to know who was and wasn't in the right. It's their business not mind. But if they were cheated on, I think it's a perfectly normal reaction that the person cheated on is going to throw an emotional reaction. You can't really expect someone to maintain their cool in a situation where they felt betrayed by a loved one.

To answer your question why it's worse. Wouldn't you feel like garbage if your loved one cheated on you, then in the heat of the episode the person she cheated on with reported you for having a perfectly expected emotional break down to it? You just lost your loved one and got a strike on your account. Anyone would find that humiliatingly insulting. Yeah there is probably more to the story but cheating is cheating and cussing is cussing. Can't really break it down more than that.

Anyway that's all I'm gonna say on the topic. This isn't the topic or the place for something sensitive and personal that could be found subjective to be discussed.

[SturmChurro]

I think they could have controlled themselves and thrown a tantrum on discord, kept it out of the game, or "silently blocked both". For that matter "loved one"? Are we talking about an internet "gf" who had some "ERP" session? I don't think this equates to "cheating". I mean, are we on the same plane of existence here? The GM was completely right in this. The game is definitely not the place for a personal dispute.

[Diggles]

I'm not gonna pretend to know who was and wasn't in the right. It's their business not mind. But if they were cheated on, I think it's a perfectly normal reaction that the person cheated on is going to throw an emotional reaction. You can't really expect someone to maintain their cool in a situation where they felt betrayed by a loved one.

1. It's their business, yet you brought it up in a public discussion in an attempt to reinforce a point (a point which was ironically undermined by your anecdote).

2. "She cheated on me, officer! That's why I started hitting her!". Do you think this person is justified in their outburst when you see them on Cops? No. No reasonable person would deny that this person deserves to be punished. Part of being a responsible member of society is controlling your own emotions. It doesn't matter what emotional state you were in when you did it - the rules still apply to you.

Like I said, this is why I have a hard time taking posts like this seriously. There is always some detail left out, glossed over, or an attempt to justify one's actions that were clearly in violation of the rules. Everyone is always an innocent victim with no idea why they got actioned.

[Vivi_Bushido]

I think they could have controlled themselves and thrown a tantrum on discord, kept it out of the game, or "silently blocked both". For that matter "loved one"? Are we talking about an internet "gf" who had some "ERP" session? I don't think this equates to "cheating". I mean, are we on the same plane of existence here? The GM was completely right in this. The game is definitely not the place for a personal dispute.

There is so much wrong with what you said I don't even know where to begin breaking it down. lol...

[Vivi_Bushido]

1. It's their business, yet you brought it up in a public discussion in an attempt to reinforce a point (a point which was ironically undermined by your anecdote).

2. "She cheated on me, officer! That's why I started hitting her!". Do you think this person is justified in their outburst when you see them on Cops? No. No reasonable person would deny that this person deserves to be punished. Part of being a responsible member of society is controlling your own emotions. It doesn't matter what emotional state you were in when you did it - the rules still apply to you.

Like I said, this is why I have a hard time taking posts like this seriously. There is always some detail left out, glossed over, or an attempt to justify one's actions that were clearly in violation of the rules. Everyone is always an innocent victim with no idea why they got actioned.

I think you're reading a bit to deeply into what I said and are exaggerating it a bit.

So far the last two posts, the only points you have both managed to make is "It's just a game so forget other people's feelings and emotions. They aren't expected to have any and if they do that's their problem. Carry on~"


The one person cheated. The other yelled and cussed. Based on this information both are guilty, both are wrong. You can't justify either. Not really much reason to press for anymore detail.

[SturmChurro]

There is so much wrong with what you said I don't even know where to begin breaking it down. lol...

In what? The game is definitely not the place for a personal dispute, especially a heated dispute. I'm all against seemingly unreasonable action taken against a player, but this isn't one of them.