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  1. #51
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    I agree that it is illogical that there is no expiration date for offenses.
    We have these IRL for real stuff that harms real people.

    To not have these "statutes of limitation" in a video game (I know, sacrilege to refer to it like that, I'll chastise myself later) is beyond absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    I agree that it is illogical that there is no expiration date for offenses.
    We have these IRL for real stuff that harms real people.

    To not have these "statutes of limitation" in a video game (I know, sacrilege to refer to it like that, I'll chastise myself later) is beyond absurd.
    I think that's how they see it sadly. It's a video game therefore it shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Therefore because it's a video game, they'd ban and tell you that you can play something else. Your behavior isn't welcomed on this video game. Because it's just a game there shouldn't be feelings and opinions in the first place. It's just a game. It's always just a game. Which is also why some people get banned in the first place. They behave immaturely because it's just a game. The phrase, it's just a game is such a vague double edge sword it hurts.

    "You can do whatever you want. It's just a game"
    "That guy is salty I hurt his feelings. He should get over it cause it's just a game."
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  3. #53
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    To be blunt: the worst I can do is fling ASCII signs at another's chat who can block me with a push of a button.
    Nothing warrants permanent exclusion. Bans should top out at 6 Months unless you do really nasty stuff like stalking, IRL threats etc.

    Being permabanned for simply losing your temper in a heated discussion (which can happen to the best of us) is way overkill.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    To be blunt: the worst I can do is fling ASCII signs at another's chat who can block me with a push of a button.
    Nothing warrants permanent exclusion. Bans should top out at 6 Months unless you do really nasty stuff like stalking, IRL threats etc.

    Being permabanned for simply losing your temper in a heated discussion (which can happen to the best of us) is way overkill.
    I agree. Sadly the GMs do not. I got temporally banned once for posting a meme that said Oh great not this discussion again. The email said it was because it contributed nothing relevant to the conversation and now that strike follows me for the rest of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I agree. Sadly the GMs do not. I got temporally banned once for posting a meme that said Oh great not this discussion again. The email said it was because it contributed nothing relevant to the conversation and now that strike follows me for the rest of my life.
    You got banned for saying that in-game? Jesus..
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You got banned for saying that in-game? Jesus..
    Yes. It really is that easy to get banned. Like I mentioned earlier; if you haven't been banned it's not that you couldn't be, it's that no one has decided to report you yet.
    Infact, every time you use a swear word no matter the context, you can be reported for inappropriate language. I was banned for saying something not relevant to the topic of the discussion that was being held in chat. Thus referred to as griefing and instigating/inflaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Yes. It really is that easy to get banned. Like I mentioned earlier; if you haven't been banned it's not that you couldn't be, it's that no one has decided to report you yet.
    Who would actually go out of their way to report somebody who says that? And then the GM's take action?! Lordy lordy, I am right to be paranoid and pick my words carefully.
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    The ToS seems at first glance like the perfect White Knights' paradise -- say nothing negative as it can be an "Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person", "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion" or "Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive" and fake instead being goody-goody. People nowadays get offended at literally ANYTHING, justified or not.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    The ToS seems at first glance like the perfect White Knights' paradise -- say nothing negative as it can be an "Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person", "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion" or "Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive" and fake instead being goody-goody. People nowadays get offended at literally ANYTHING, justified or not.
    Oh it get's worse than that.

    I had a friend get GM jailed because their girlfriend ERP cheated on them in-game and he blew up cussing her and the guy she cheated with. The guy she cheated on with thought the boyfriend was being immature and reported him for harassment and telling him how to play his game. Needless to say, the guy who was cheated on got in trouble and the GM told him the mature thing to do would had been to just silently block both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Oh it get's worse than that.

    I had a friend get GM jailed because their girlfriend ERP cheated on them in-game and he blew up cussing her and the guy she cheated with. The guy thought he was being immature and reported him for harassment and telling him how to play his game. Needless to say, the guy who was cheated on got in trouble and the GM told him the mature thing to do would had been to just silently block both.
    I mean, that GM was definitely in the right on this one. ERP "cheated"? Take that to discord. Unless you are joking?
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