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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    You're avoiding the point. IRL there are statute of limitations laws for a reason. People grow and people change. Keeping any but the most serious infractions on any kind of permanent record is silly.
    No I'm not, please read my post following the one you quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    No I'm not, please read my post following the one you quoted.
    Yes, you kind of are. You acknowledge what was said, but your point I'll quote has nothing to do with that.

    That being said, my point still stands that if you (the general "you") find yourself getting multiple strikes, then maybe it's time to assess your online behavior.
    What does this have to do with reports being forgiven over time? I'll digress a bit: on the FFXIV Official Forums, it's a two-strike policy before you're permabanned. Some survive to three, most are permabanned at two. I know several people who, with three to four years between bans, got permabanned. Maybe they should assess why they got reported so much...all of two times over four years.

    Not everybody's a perfect angel as you purport to be. People make mistakes. Mistakes shouldn't be held on some permanent record.

    As an aside, why did you split your post like that? You got a pretty cheap "gotcha" moment out of it I guess but it still cost you three of your allotted 20 posts per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Yes, you kind of are. You acknowledge what was said, but your point I'll quote has nothing to do with that.



    What does this have to do with reports being forgiven over time? I'll digress a bit: on the FFXIV Official Forums, it's a two-strike policy before you're permabanned. Some survive to three, most are permabanned at two. I know several people who, with three to four years between bans, got permabanned. Maybe they should assess why they got reported so much...all of two times over four years.

    Not everybody's a perfect angel as you purport to be. People make mistakes. Mistakes shouldn't be held on some permanent record.

    As an aside, why did you split your post like that? You got a pretty cheap "gotcha" moment out of it I guess but it still cost you three of your allotted 20 posts per day.
    I rarely post, and do so while I'm at work generally and don't move back to edit previous posts. I don't really care about post count, and I don't care for "cheap gotcha moments" either. If you saw it as such, that's entirely on you, sorry.

    As for my stance on infractions, as per my post: I am not totally against infractions being removed after x_amount of time. I'm not sure how differently I can word that to say that I agree with you when you say that people can change and past mistakes shouldn't be held against them.

    My point, however, still stands when i say that if you're getting multiple strikes, then you need to assess your behavior. It's not about being "a perfect angel"; I never purported to be as such. Sure, people make mistakes, I've made plenty and I'll be the first to admit it. But at the same time, I learned from them and I expect others to be able to do the same.
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