Collective Unconscious and Sacred Soil

[Lagomorph]

I am simply comparing CU with SS because that's the topic of this thread, and that's what you do too. If you don't think they are comparable, why we find you here in this thread?

Accusing someone is "absurd" while you yourself are comparing only the ES's 720 potency vs Indom's 400 potency without thinking about cd/range/ease to use.

First, ES has a 60s CD, indom has 30s cd, which makes the indom can be used twice while ES can only be used once in a minute. 400x2 = 800 potency, how about now?

Second, ES has a pool 8y range which means ppl has to stay close to get healed, while indom has 15y range which is pretty friendly for casters/ranged dps

Third, for ES to upgrade to 720potency, AST has to press the button once, then press it again after selecting a desired location, and wait for 10 seconds, and press it again to blow it. While indom is simply one hit.

ES has to be planned for use while indom could be used as a "o-shit" button and allow sch to wave with more flexibility given to its ease of use, short cooldown and larger range.

And again, keep bringing other spells/abilities into this CU/SS thread simply indicates even you know it yourself that SS is better in every aspect and CU needs to be fixed, thats why you look elsewhere to bring more support, and failed again.

Yes comparing earthly star to indom/assize is ridiculous, I'm glad that you noticed. That was the whole point. I could just as easily make more ridiculous comparisons claiming that benefic/benefic II/horoscope/celestial intersection etc. are overpowered, but I'll refrain because then that would be the only part of this post you actually respond to. Similarly, comparing CU to sacred soil without considering the healer's entire kit is also ridiculous. Contrary to what you say, I've explained why in the part of my post that you conveniently ignored, so there is no reason for me to repeat it. I find it very telling that out of everything that I said that is relevant to this topic, you choose only to respond to the bit of hyperbole I put at the end of my post. Also I'd like you to quote me where I said that SS is not better than CU and where I said that CU doesn't need to be fixed. You said in your last line that I know it myself, right? Well I do know it, and I haven't indicated that I think otherwise anywhere else in this thread. My entire point is that sacred soil is strong, but not as strong as you're making out to be, and that CU is weak, but not as weak as you're making it out to be. You did the same thing here by exaggerating the weaknesses of earthly star while simultaneously downplaying the weakness of indom/assize. But like I said, that part was intentionally supposed to be ridiculous (and irrelevant too) and you seem to have taken it seriously, so I think I'll pass on going into why I think a lot of what you said on that topic is wrong.

[Schan]

My entire point is that sacred soil is strong, but not as strong as you're making out to be, and that CU is weak, but not as weak as you're making it out to be.

So if both healers only had those skills to heal and max mp / stacks/ what have you, we can agree that SS > CU in their current state no?

[Lagomorph]

So if both healers only had those skills to heal and max mp / stacks/ what have you, we can agree that SS > CU in their current state no?

Yes, absolutely