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    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    the only viable way to get a house anymore is to participate in under-the-table negotiations
    Here's the Housing Census thread, now you can move to a server and buy a home! All perfectly viable and above board.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nsus%21/page31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Here's the Housing Census thread, now you can move to a server and buy a home! All perfectly viable and above board.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nsus%21/page31
    I don't want to move to another server. I appreciate the help but that's ridiculous. I'm not going to i) lose access to every social circle here; ii) delete my FC; iii) ask over 30 people to pay money just so we can engage in a piece of content we literally already pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    I don't want to move to another server. I appreciate the help but that's ridiculous. I'm not going to i) lose access to every social circle here; ii) delete my FC; iii) ask over 30 people to pay money just so we can engage in a piece of content we literally already pay for.
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
    "Pay real money to relocate an entire FC as well as delete everything you have on your server" is not, in any stretch of the imagination, "viable", Edax. I think you know this, so I have no idea how or why you'd defend such an objectively badly designed system.

    Besides, it fixes nothing. If every single person relocated servers to buy a house in a low-pop Realm, there would still be a housing crisis. There's a total of 2,160 plots per server. The amount of plots available across all servers in a datacentre, mathematically, not even enough to service 2 servers in a datacenter.

    I'm also not going to participate in RMT. If that was what I wanted to do, I wouldn't even bother coming here to share my frustration; I'd just do it and then I'd have nothing to complain about -- probably take an air of "everything is fine", like yourself, since I'd have what I want. But for as much as I detest this system, I hate RMT (and those who perpetuate it) even more. But it is a fact that this system highly, HIGHLY incentivizes it. Just go to the FFXIV Housing subreddit and see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
    Sorry but thats utterly ridiculous way to justify the system. Making people move servers is not a viable system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlach View Post
    Sorry but thats utterly ridiculous way to justify the system. Making people move servers is not a viable system.
    Why is not viable?

    vi·a·ble
    /ˈvīəb(ə)l/

    adjective
    capable of working successfully; feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Why is not viable?

    vi·a·ble
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    capable of working successfully; feasible.
    God, I was trying to be cordial but you are just being insufferable at this point.

    Yes, it's linguistically feasible. Just like it's feasible for me to get a teleport hack, or a script that autoclicks the board for me every 0.004 seconds, or buy RMT. Less hassle, even. This is not a good justification.

    But judging by your pattern of responses on this board regarding this topic, you'd probably say those are all perfectly viable options, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Why is not viable?

    vi·a·ble
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    capable of working successfully; feasible.
    You're omitting context. Is it viable under the technical definition? Sure. But a system that requires someone to give up their social circle, FC and pay 24$ isn't much of a solution. It only serves to highlight how horrendously mishandled housing is, and it's about time SE did something to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You're omitting context. Is it viable under the technical definition? Sure. But a system that requires someone to give up their social circle, FC and pay 24$ isn't much of a solution. It only serves to highlight how horrendously mishandled housing is, and it's about time SE did something to fix it.
    Still viable. Would I give up my social circle and FC and pay $24 to get a house? The answer is yes. With Discord and World Visit, I would never truly be gone from my social circle anyway.
    And this maybe a controversial opinion, but this is the best housing system in an MMO I've ever played. It's riddled with problems and there might be better systems out there, but so far this is the best I've had.
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