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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    No....honey... They're 16...

    And Elezen mature more slowly than other races.
    Not to be that person, but they are actually 18 as of now, they were 16 at the start of ARR and some time has passes. However, this changes NOTHING as Elezen are as you said slower to mature so they still definitely qualifies in the "NOPE! You are a creep" category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    Not to be that person, but they are actually 18 as of now, they were 16 at the start of ARR and some time has passes.
    I was trying to tell them.

    /shrug

    Better someone else than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    Not to be that person, but they are actually 18 as of now, they were 16 at the start of ARR and some time has passes. However, this changes NOTHING as Elezen are as you said slower to mature so they still definitely qualifies in the "NOPE! You are a creep" category.
    Physically speaking they're still 16. It seems insane, but I'm gonna be that person back and remind you of the Great Eorzean Time Bubble that's vexed lore nerds for the past six years: no official amount of time, let alone years, can be determined to have passed since ARR. Koji hasn't even confirmed it's been more than a year. Again, seems insane, but that's the official stance on it.

    Spiritually speaking, sure they're 18 now since they've been on the First for two years give or take. Physically though, still 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Physically speaking they're still 16. It seems insane, but I'm gonna be that person back and remind you of the Great Eorzean Time Bubble that's vexed lore nerds for the past six years: no official amount of time, let alone years, can be determined to have passed since ARR. Koji hasn't even confirmed it's been more than a year. Again, seems insane, but that's the official stance on it.

    Spiritually speaking, sure they're 18 now since they've been on the First for two years give or take. Physically though, still 16.
    Physically the twins are 17.
    They were 16 going into Shadowbringers (due to the non-passage of time from ARR to ShB) and they were on the First for about a year before we showed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Physically the twins are 17.
    They were 16 going into Shadowbringers (due to the non-passage of time from ARR to ShB) and they were on the First for about a year before we showed up.
    Their physical bodies are still on the Source. Hence why I differentiated their spirit age (because their spirit is on the First where years have passed) and their physical age (where no prove-able time has passed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Their physical bodies are still on the Source.
    Their ORIGINAL physical bodies. They have physical bodies on the First too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Their ORIGINAL physical bodies. They have physical bodies on the First too.
    Yes. Their original, actual physical bodies, which is what I said and why I differentiated.

    But actually if we're gonna be pedantic about it, their physical bodies appear seventeen on the First, but are actually two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Yes. Their original, actual physical bodies, which is what I said and why I differentiated.

    But actually if we're gonna be pedantic about it, their physical bodies appear seventeen on the First, but are actually two.
    All you said was "physically speaking"... which isn't specific enough for someone to automatically assume you're talking about their bodies on the Source, because they have a physical form on the First as well.

    Also, you said "spiritually speaking" they're 18 because you thought they had been on the First for 2 years, when it's only been 1 year.

    "If we're going to be pedantic about it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Physically speaking they're still 16. It seems insane, but I'm gonna be that person back and remind you of the Great Eorzean Time Bubble that's vexed lore nerds for the past six years: no official amount of time, let alone years, can be determined to have passed since ARR. Koji hasn't even confirmed it's been more than a year. Again, seems insane, but that's the official stance on it.

    Spiritually speaking, sure they're 18 now since they've been on the First for two years give or take. Physically though, still 16.
    Wasn't it confirmed that the time bubble was a lie? But damned if it hasn't even passed a year since we started our campaign... I read 18 as current on a wiki though which is where I got that number from, and it kinda made sense so I took it at face value, not that it even matter as you can CLEARLY see that the twins are NOT ok to date unless you yourself is a lower teen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    Wasn't it confirmed that the time bubble was a lie? But damned if it hasn't even passed a year since we started our campaign... I read 18 as current on a wiki though which is where I got that number from, and it kinda made sense so I took it at face value, not that it even matter as you can CLEARLY see that the twins are NOT ok to date unless you yourself is a lower teen.
    The time bubble remains in place. It means that character ages remain constant and the stated time since historic events does not increase. (The Calamity will always be five years ago.)

    That doesn't mean we need to assume we really crammed several expansions' worth of activity into the space of one year. We're not supposed to. It's just that all that time sits inside a one-year span on an overall timeline of Eorzean history. Somehow. Don't think too hard about it.

    All you need to remember is that the characters do NOT grow older, even if they logically should have by now. They have a stated age and they will remain that age for as long as this story lasts, no adjustments required.

    Fan-edited wikis are not a guaranteed source of information, and even without the time bubble, we have no definite calculation of how much time would have passed, so 18 is just one person's guess. The lorebook says they are 16, and that is where they are staying.
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