Soo.. i played Dark Knight in Shadowbringer and have some suggestions

[Ryulaido]

Since the release of Dark Knight i feel like the Devs are teasing us with flashy, cool looking animations and then they remove them step by step while the only let us use the boring skills.

Soo... the new skills of DRK are very very cool but... i feel so bored spamming 2 more years Soul Eater..

I already have my heart broken with the fact they removed Scourge & Delirium (The old one.. when it was an attack not an buff skill .. the 2 blue colored slices)

But can we remove Soul Eater and replace it with Power Slash?

In total i would like to bring back :

Power Slash
Scourge
Delirium

Remove :

Soul Eater (or let it stay but then give us the opportunity to not be forced only use that skill all the time)

im focusing here on the skill animations not their technical functional use in a rotation.

so i would be also fine with just replacing Soul Eater for example with Scourge ANIMATION only.

Do you guys think the devs will change that? until now for 6 years i havent seen that the devs are changing the skill animation even though they are for me in a combat system the main and most important part of a game.

sooo is there any chance we will get old skills back , at least their animations?

why arent there polls that we can add to see how many want that and if there is a majority the devs can look on that?

They always see "we heard players feedback and will change that"

but why do they never hear our feedback regarding gameplay stuff?

this kind of "feedback" they "hear" is always related to boring stuff like housing system or whatever. server lags or something like that. but core gameplay elements are always ignored and we get no statements about that.

we are not allowed afaik to suggest changes of animations or say "bring us back that old skill and replace it with the current"

i dont know im very curious about your opinions maybe im the only one who miss the old dark knight animations.

[shao32]

the last poll show a clear majority preffers HW DRK, note that poll only have HW and SB to choose, and most feedback made in this forum was with the intention to aproach DRK to his HW origins in SB, why they just ignore our feedback is something i don't know, looks like they just look over our feedback and then "ok so they complaing about DA? remove it", and thats children how dark warrior born in SHB.

about the animations, doubt it, we asked for scourge animation at least for years but seems they don't want to or they just throw all the scourge data on the paper bin and is irrecoverable. anyway, being the job with the most coolest animations from the begining we will miss them, if wasn't scourge it would be another thing.

[Lannybaby]

I do honestly prefer the power slash animation versus the soul eater one. From a realistic standpoint, it would be very difficult to jump as high as the player does, using soul eater, when wearing heavy plated armor. Maybe once or twice, but not a hundred times over the course of a boss encounter. But this is a fantasy world, I guess. That said, smacking a foe, in the face, with an explosion of dark energy, imo, looks much cooler.

[TouchandFeel]

The Soul Eater animation is a direct homage to Cloud's Limit Break Climhazzard and I personally like the nod to abilities from previous Final Fantasy games.

[Ryulaido]

LOL I did not knew it was from Cloud. Considering that this skill is much cooler! (Since i was a child when VII was a new game i never played it and wait for the remake so i dont spoil myself and just believe you that he has that skill)

BUT... like... honestly and very seriously now..

i have so many questions.. i dont know so many stuff like how much does it actually "cost" to develop a skill. or how long does it take to develop one.. questions over questions BUT!

What i know is : they already developed skills for the dark knight .. animations. Like from Scourge. So it should be VERY EASY for them just to swap the animations or am i that wrong about that?

So it should be actually quite easy for the devs to change the skills at least in their animation and i googled for an hour and i found like 2 or 3 threads like this one here and i didnt saw anyone prefer Soul Eater over Delirium or Power Slash.

So i believe the majority (at least from those persons who used their voice in the internet) is wishing for an animation swap or bringing back old skills.

And as you said the majority seemed to prefer HS Dark Knight. But the HS DRK had scourge , delirium and power slash. so its exactly what i said.

first they removed 2 skills i liked and now they removed power slash too. 3 skills now that had a cool animation and got removed while let us stay with soul eater.

Soul Eater is an cool skill I would not remove it BUT its that kind of skill you dont want to see too often you know what i mean? it dont look like an combo finisher more like an opener or second after the opener. It dont feel satisfying to use it.

So i just wish and want to understand what are the devs actually thinking when they decide about how a skill has to look and how a skill is decided to be removed.

Why is there no survey or thread from the devs asking "how much are you satisfied with skill animations?" and then make a poll to each skill animation ?

Devs always say "we want to listen to our community and improve together the game"

but this line is always only related to things like ping or lags or as i said housing system.. so nothing about core gameplay elements just boring stuff like glamour system or something like that.

but skill animations are very important to me because they keep me motivated to take part in the game and love doing dungeons and stuff. and since FF is very repetetive in skills because you rotate them and see them all 2 seconds again they have to look good or not?

other games work like you only use normal combos and skills are a special thing that need to be charged up but in this game you only have skills and see them 500 times in a minute so in my opinion they should look good. AND THEY DO... but they remove the cool looking skills and the remaining ones are... Okay... but compared to the removed ones...


its just sad and weird we dont get heard by the devs we dont even get an statement. this is what troubles me. if i would get an statement where i get explained why it wont be realized i can live much better with that than just having an question mark over my head for years and dont understand why they are choosing to do that considering there are more than 1 threads and more than 1 person complaining about what happened to the skills. so its not a problem from a single human being but alot more.

one day i wish to to have enough reach to contact the devs and tell them that this is not cool xD. until then it seems like i have to live with that. at least we can suffer together and im not the only one who has a problem with that. thanks for your opinions

[jetfire117]

They have a good track record of deleting the cool animations

[ADVSS]

LOL OP if they get rid of SOULEATER They can kiss calling it a "Dark Knight" out the window for good. But maybe they should do it, call it Dark Warrior instead. Then. Maybe they can give us a real Dark Knight, later on. Chances are though, limited job.

However, I agree with you, the animation is pretty mediocre- personally, that ability shouldnt even be a combo ability, but its own hard-hitting skill, non-spammable, and more impactful than even "fell cleave" condsidering that that skill, is as much DRK identifiable ability as "jump" is for Dragoons. Even if I preferred the HW rendition, things like SE being what it is, never sat right with me even then.

[DRKoftheAzure]

The Soul Eater animation is a direct homage to Cloud's Limit Break Climhazzard and I personally like the nod to abilities from previous Final Fantasy games.

Oh so that's why there is so much emphasis on spamming Souleater... The animation is from the obviously overrated FF7, hence why Souleater feels Overrated...

[Ryulaido]

Well i wouldnt say without soul eater you cant call him dark knight anymore. every skill of him is very good designed in my opinion for an "dark knight". and he got that new aoe skill which is from cecil which is very cool too. so without SE we still have more than enough that identifyes him as an dark knight.

lets just hope they will do something about that even though they wont. xD

At least that is what im afraid of but i cant stay silent i wanted to make this thread and listen to other people opinions. i see im not the only one with that opinion but still we dont get a change or even an statement about that to be able to understand why that is.
so players will be left behind with an question mark which is very sad but it seems you cant do anything about that huh..

if i ever visit an convention where yoshida is and i can talk to him i will ask him lol

[DRKoftheAzure]

I wish Blood Weapon and Delirium restored HP on hit now... mitigation and self sustain is REALLY bad and even I wouldn't want healers to heal a DRK ever right now...