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  1. #31
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    [QUOTE=LillithaFenimore;506095]Very sad about letting my character go along with my husbands. We can't justify p2p for something we just aren't having fun with.[QUOTE]

    Funny that you would have kept playing if it was f2p even though you werent having fun
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  2. #32
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    New engine and new servers. I don't see what else needs to be said. They together make a game.

    Nothing drastic will happen with the old structures in place. Server and engine are everything. You don't seem to realize the importance of these two components to a game. UI? Game mechanics? revamped maps? Tons of content being able to be developed for only the new structure? Nice bonus I guess. Oh, which are also integrated to the servers and engine.
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    but what does a new engine actually do? what is it going to do that the current one cant do?
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  4. #34
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    Wow.. so clueless.. Why UMAD?
    I'm not mad at all. I'm actually very optimistic and looking forward to the forum cleansing! BRING FORTH THE CLEANSING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    New engine and new servers. I don't see what else needs to be said. They together make a game.

    Nothing drastic will happen with the old structures in place. Server and engine are everything. You don't seem to realize the importance of these two components to a game. UI? Game mechanics? Nice bonus I guess. Oh, which are also integrated to the servers and engine.
    Thats all great but the people doing the work are the same people who have been in charge since mid dec 2010. We still dont have a mail box. We still have crysta and click and buy as our only payment methods. We still have no link shell controls. We still have jobs that you can start your character as(cul) that have no purpose etc.

    A new engine and new servers are a great fresh canvas, I just dont have much faith in the artist.
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    I have 8 crafts at 50. All I did was watch T.V. and spam standard for easy mode synths. Enjoy leveling those crafts in 1.19 and beyond everyone!

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    but what does a new engine actually do? what is it going to do that the current one cant do?
    It can offer vastly better performance for a wider variety of hardware. Better, more stable FPS, more graphic customization options (in-game), more efficient data usage (loading times improved), improved shaders and lightning, ability to allow for Z-axis to be used in environment (such as jumping and flying), able to load significantly more characters on-screen at time. More precise controlling of PC's and NPC's, faster updates of character movement server-side, significantly improved UI-server interaction, prepared to handle animations that allow movement. All action preparation times significantly reduced. Better tools in place for asset preparation and design (allowing for potentially less static environment and more interaction with it). Better designed to handle complex monster AI. Designed to handle targetless actions. More efficient tools to change such aspects of the game as UI and game mechanics. Serverless features that allow for cross-server play and clusters. More efficient tools for content creation. Ability to handle graphical features beyond DX9.

    Engine and servers are EVERYTHING.

    Thats all great but the people doing the work are the same people who have been in charge since mid dec 2010.
    That is great indeed, and server/engine programmers have nothing to do with mailboxes or linkshell controls. You will only see the finished product, not an engine on the making.

    Yoshida has a standard to meet (other MMO engines that can do most of the above). The engine and servers are designed to meet that standard. There is no reason to believe Yoshida is setting for anything lower. He knows the consequences.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 01-06-2012 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieKeebler View Post
    So they enjoy the game but it's not worth paying $10/month for? I just don't get some of these people who keep saying "beta, beta, beta." Square has fixed a lot of stuff in the past year and the game's made leaps and bounds. It's quite enjoyable with a fun linkshell. I can understand "oh, I just can't afford it in this poor economy." I can understand "eh, I just don't like it." I can't understand enjoying the game enough to have an emotional response and then not be willing to pay just $10/month. Come on.

    It will be great when all of these people disappear from the official forums in 30 days. Good riddance.
    when they are making 2.0 a completely different game with new maps and everything yeah this can be called beta.

    dev continue to reform tweak battle system and "testing out different types of ui changes
    " to me thats beta just saying

    and you saying they Fixed is completely dumb this game is still horrid with lag especially in instances
    UI and Menu response still crap
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I can definately see where the OP is coming from, I dont' think the game is worth paying for at the moment either, hopefully 1.21 will have some decent content to change my mind.
    For me I doubt 1.21 will have any content at all . What they do is add jobs which more then likely be over powered becuase SE doesnt know the word Balance. So they going to just add Jobs and we will have to do same fights over and over again moogle , or they will add 2 more instances and negate all last patch content with titan and garuda weapons (Which will be same fight as Ifrit)......

    I still Play because of My linkshell we have been LS mate since 06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    when they are making 2.0 a completely different game with new maps and everything yeah this can be called beta.

    dev continue to reform tweak battle system and "testing out different types of ui changes
    " to me thats beta just saying
    Yeah, let's use a product that is completely different from our new product as a beta.

    In other (finished) MMO's devs do not continue tweaking the battle mechanics and testing out new UI concepts. Oh wait, they do. Every MMO is a beta, you heard it here first.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    For me I doubt 1.21 will have any content at all . What they do is add jobs which more then likely be over powered becuase SE doesnt know the word Balance. So they going to just add Jobs and we will have to do same fights over and over again moogle , or they will add 2 more instances and negate all last patch content with titan and garuda weapons (Which will be same fight as Ifrit)......

    I still Play because of My linkshell we have been LS mate since 06.
    We’re already working on content for the year’s first patch, 1.20b, and developing the job system, job quests, and new dungeons (there’s two of them!) slated for 1.21 at the same time, so our schedule is absolute pandemonium at this point. (Job-specific weapons are lined up for after 1.21, and we’re making sure getting them will entail a bit of difficulty! )
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...995#post490995

    Two dungeons scheduled for 1.21.
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