The Amaro mount...

[Halivel]

With that requirement, and the 1-2 years of grinding needed to accomplish it. the mount should do FAR more than just run and fly.
It might be worth it if the Amaro could:
1. Fly at up to 100 times as fast as any other mount (with continuously-variable speed.)
2. Fly in ALL zones, including new ones, without the need to quest and collect things.
3. Carry passengers, including a permanent extra retainer, (free).
4. Provide free teleports to any Aetherite.

You highly overestimate leveling speed tbh. I leveled GNB from 60 to 70 in one day, and then few days for leveling until 80 with MSQ and I wasn't really fast. Right now, if you have one class at 80, all other jobs will have 100% exp bonus for 1-70 levels and 50% from 70 to 80. Plus rest bonus, pluc FC/Squadron bonus, plus additional items like earrings if your level is under 70. In fact, you will need about maybe week to level one job if your online is not very high. I'm quite sure we will see first Amaros less than in a month.

[Seraphor]

You highly overestimate leveling speed tbh. I leveled GNB from 60 to 70 in one day, and then few days for leveling until 80 with MSQ and I wasn't really fast. Right now, if you have one class at 80, all other jobs will have 100% exp bonus for 1-70 levels and 50% from 70 to 80. Plus rest bonus, pluc FC/Squadron bonus, plus additional items like earrings if you level is under 70. In fact, you will need about maybe week to level one job if your online is not very high.

By 1 day, do you mean an entire day? Like, 18 hours or so?
Because a day of play for me is about 3 hours, and I can barely fit all my roulettes into that time, and I usually don't because I like to do things besides just roulettes.

It took me 7 days to get through the MSQ to 80, and that's with more than typical playtime.
I'm leveling my secondary jobs now, two to be specific, and I'm at 76 and 73 respectively after another 6 days.
So accounting for downtime, days where I don't play FFXIV at all, which will be many once I'm over the Shadowbringers hype, and accounting for days where I don't level at all, because I'm playing end-game content, 1 level per day is very realistic.

[Enjuden]

By 1 day, do you mean an entire day? Like, 18 hours or so?
Because a day of play for me is about 3 hours, and I can barely fit all my roulettes into that time, and I usually don't because I like to do things besides just roulettes.

18 hours sounds about right with armory bonus from 60-70. To level the fastest, you do need to restrict what you do to just X/Y/Z. But to say you require an entire year to level all classes to 80, even with only 3 hours of play is absurd. 1 level should be around half that time without armory bonus if you spam the latest dungeon for two levels, not counting queue times. In theory, you could make it even faster if you only did Gyr Abania til 75, but that is horrifically boring aside from seeing how quick you can speedrun the dungeon thanks to the Aetheryte Earring.

[Seraphor]

18 hours sounds about right with armory bonus from 60-70. To level the fastest, you do need to restrict what you do to just X/Y/Z. But to say you require an entire year to level all classes to 80, even with only 3 hours of play is absurd. 1 level should be around half that time without armory bonus if you spam the latest dungeon for two levels, not counting queue times.

As i said on the previous page. All jobs from 70 to 80 is 160 levels.
So at 1 level per day on average, that's six months.

For someone just starting the game, and starting the count at 30 for all jobs, 50 for two and 60 for another two... 740 levels to gain. That's two years, that's into 6.0

[Enjuden]

You can definitely get more than 1 level per day in three hours though is what I'm saying, but again, you do have to level in an efficient manner in order to accomplish that. If you did do it efficiently with three hours, assuming you get a level and a half. Still, some things should take work to get, and I believe this amount of work is fair since anyone can do it without camping at their cpu like with the hunt mount.

[Seraphor]

You can definitely get more than 1 level per day in three hours though is what I'm saying, but again, you do have to level in an efficient manner in order to accomplish that. If you did do it efficiently with three hours, assuming you get a level and a half. Still, some things should take work to get, and I believe this amount of work is fair since anyone can do it without camping at their cpu like with the hunt mount.

Efficiently level, consistently, for several months.
Any time to play endgame content?
That's why I say average it to 1 level per day. It might be possible to get 2 levels per day, but not consistently, while doing end game content as well.

Some things should take work to get sure. But this is a mundane, basic mount.

Four jobs to level 80 would suffice, have the requirements be "Complete all level 80 Role quests." would be fine.
This would even make sense in the lore. You're completing the story of the Warriors of Light from the First, and thereby unlocking their version of a Chocobo.

By all means having something to gain from leveling all jobs to 80, maybe just a title would be more fitting.

[Halivel]

By 1 day, do you mean an entire day? Like, 18 hours or so?
Because a day of play for me is about 3 hours, and I can barely fit all my roulettes into that time, and I usually don't because I like to do things besides just roulettes.

Good question tbh, because I didn't really count, but I think it was faster than 18 hours. I just spammed 21-30 HoH floor in fact. First job is normally the longest anyway because you still need get all dungeons and finish story.

From personal experience, when I started to level my jobs from to 60 to 70 in Stormblood, my online was about 3 hours as well or less, and with doing all roulettes and then spamming latest dungeon I was able to get from 1 to 3 levels per day. In the end it's mostly depends on what exactly you do when you are online. If you do your roulettes on max level class (for tomestones) and farm raids, leveling would be considerably low for many reasons, but when you are focused solely on leveling - the process goes quite fast. 1-2 years is really overestimating, if only you do not sit in raid all 3 hours all week.

[Enjuden]

Efficiently level, consistently, for several months.
Any time to play endgame content?

Some things should take work to get sure. But this is a mundane, basic mount.

Four jobs to level 80 would suffice, have the requirements be "Complete all level 80 Role quests." would be fine.
This would even make sense in the lore. You're completing the story of the Warriors of Light from the First, and thereby unlocking their version of a Chocobo.

Yes, that much is true, but I am only stating what can work with what we have now. Though I think anyone that works solely toward that with such limited playtime is doomed to burn out. I do keep up my sub though and play throughout years at a time, so I may just not have the same perspective.

[Bright-Flower]

I thought we'd get it in the msq like the mana cutter, nidhogg, yol and magitek reaper. When that didn't happen It hought maybe doing the four role questlines.

It's baffling to me that the standard mount for the First is tied behind such a grind ESPECIALLY with there not being a msq mount at all this time.

[SturmChurro]

People are confusing the arguments. It's not about the achievement reward being a mount, it's the achievement reward being an Amaro. If there was going to be an achievement reward for this it should have been nicer. Generic amaro, not cool.

Yeah, the people who already have everything to 70 only have a mild grind to do to achieve this. I do not seriously level classes I have no interest in. I have an interest in having one max level tank, one max level healer, and actually only about two dps. I had several classes leveled to 70 before, but I leveled most of them during downtime. For example, once I got 70 with summoner and samurai I NEVER touched them again. For a new player they have to literally level everything from scratch, and are even worse off than me. Players who have a ton of alts can probably kiss it goodbye.

I'm sure there are people saying "be thankful", or something along those lines.