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  1. #11
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    Dnc has an attack buff that increases 5% for 1 min with a 1.5s recast
    While DRG Dragon Sight buffs attack by, 10% on Caster and 5% on partner, for 20s with a 120s recast and limited by distance of 12y during use.

    Dragon Sight needs to last longer to make it worth the use compared to the dnc.

    Stardiver comes out quick and hits like a normal jump that can only be used every 60s if you can get Life of the Dragon up. It needs to have the same impact feel as Dragonfire Dive.
    Damage wise for now it's weak it deals about the same damage as the Dragonfire Dive.
    Insanity. Dragoon does more DPS than any class but samurai right now and you want to buff its utility even more? No effin' way
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  2. #12
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    Lann Devereux
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 97
    Between StB and ShB, dragoons were mostly untouched, with a few additions, and I'd like to keep it that way. The only buff I could vaguely see is life surge forcing a critical hit from stardiver. But even that's a real stretch because it would just be stupid to have an AoE attack that does the same damage as full thrust. It's already crazy enough that life surge works with coerthan thrust.
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  3. #13
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    Vallerie's Avatar
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    Character
    Valeria Ymir
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lannybaby View Post
    The only buff I could vaguely see is life surge forcing a critical hit from stardiver.
    I can't really see that happening, both because it would require you to double weave it with a jump skill, and because they just removed Life Surge's equivalent for jumps an expansion ago.
    It's already crazy enough that life surge works with coerthan thrust.
    Yeaaah, I was surprised they removed the "only applies to the first target hit" line from both Life Surge and MCH's Reassemble.
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  4. #14
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Character
    Lucius Magnus
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Insanity. Dragoon does more DPS than any class but samurai right now and you want to buff its utility even more? No effin' way
    BLM says "hi!"
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  5. #15
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallerie View Post
    I disagree on the animation, I find it really awesome /personal taste
    Don't forget that the animation of Stardiver is literally a direct callback to a boss mechanic of a certain level 60 trial in the MSQ (Final Steps of Faith, spoilers for anyone who hasn't completed HW). It's a faithful recreation of the ability for players.



    And seriously, the only buff dragon sight needs is to have its range increased to like 30 yalms so that Dragoons can tether the Black Mage sitting halfway across the map. The class is hilariously overperforming right now (most likely). Just, period. A range increase is the only thing that I could get behind supporting for DRG buffs, since it's purely quality of life.
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  6. #16
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    Arya Targaryen
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    No, Dragoon is bonkers. It needs nerfs, not buffs.
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  7. #17
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    San D'oria/ Gridania
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    Character
    Anime King
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Took me a bit to get my DNC up.
    Ya no I'm doing more dmg and more sustained dmg as dnc then drg.
    DD's don't fight for dmg based on what role they are. All DD's fight for the 2nd or 3rd spot equally.
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  8. #18
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    Rhyn's Avatar
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    Character
    Becidenne Rhymsdottir
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    That you do better on DNC is your own personal issue.

    What everyone is implicitly referring to are the Ex Primal statistics, here: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/28/.

    And DNC is dead last for personal DPS, while DRG is miles ahead and in a really good spot in ShB (considering they bring buffs unlike the top rankings).
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Aoi Kurogane
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    I love DRG the way it is right now but if it does receive nerfs in the future, they won't be horrible.
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