Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Drayce1]

I been meeting healers in lots of roulettes, duties and such, who cant seem to Heal at all, seems to just wanna try to DPS, especially WHMs, not realizing my own AoEs greatly outdamages theirs if they heal me *PLD*.

Been having to kick alot of Green DPS lately. Honestly, I do not care if a healer DPS's, so long as they do what they are there for, heal their party members. Im probably gonna trust and fate my GBR and WAR to 80 to avoid the agony. Took PLD and DRK to 80 before all the good healers were done leveling.

[Doljax]

Finally got around to playing SCH for the first time since... well, ever. (All of my Arcanist job levelling up to this point has been done as a SMN.) Get Holminster, and think "Oh joy. A class I've not played outside of doing job quests, and now I'm healing in a new dungeon. At least the tank will pull conservatively, right?"

Nope. The tank pulled wall-to-wall. So now I have to figure out how to play SCH while the tank's health is getting uncomfortably low for my liking. Fortunately, nobody dies, and by the time of the third boss I've got a decent grasp of what does what, and how to put out enough healing to get some good DPS time. I say third boss, because that's when it all comes crashing down horribly.

First, either the DNC or the MCH is slightly out of range. Then the DNC decides that no, the boss is more important than the Chain (luckily, the Chain still died before the MCH did). When Bubba is having his tantrum, the DNC gets dances among the spikes. Then I rez them, and get an impromptu lecture on the spikes. Messy, and unrecoverable. Fortunately, the next go still has problems of the DPS outranging me, but everything else was done properly.

All said, pretty fun experience. I'm always a fan of trial-by-fire learning.

[foussi]

Was doing haukke manor( hard) yesterday and the other redmage in the group didn't go into melee.
Didnt go into melee the whole dungeon long, we actually wiped two times cause we apparently didnt kill lady amandine fast enough. And that player wasnt even a sprout.

[gumas]

just got probably the most pathetic DRG i ever seen in my pug days. level 71 dungeon.

he just spam sonic thrust and nothing more, 5 enemy? sonic thrust, 1 enemy? sonic thrust, boss fight? sonic thrust. no ogcd, no weaving, no buff, nothing,. just sonic thrust.

oh and i really mean just sonic thrust, no doom spike. yes, no combo so its 100 potency only.

by the time we finish the first boss fight, its already past 20 minutes mark (i know because my 30m food buff got 9m left) and he die 7 times (iam the healer). party (maybe) try to teach him (jp party) but seems useless since after that he still doing sonic thrust.

the other dps (brd) also bad, but at least he do single target attack when it come to single enemy (i saw empyreal and refulgent but no song)

i suggest to kick the drg but no response until 2nd boss. finish the 2nd boss, already pass 35m mark, he die 13 times total, i just force leave myself, penalty be damn.

[tinythinker]

I been meeting healers in lots of roulettes, duties and such, who cant seem to Heal at all, seems to just wanna try to DPS, especially WHMs, not realizing my own AoEs greatly outdamages theirs if they heal me *PLD*.

Been having to kick alot of Green DPS lately. Honestly, I do not care if a healer DPS's, so long as they do what they are there for, heal their party members. Im probably gonna trust and fate my GBR and WAR to 80 to avoid the agony. Took PLD and DRK to 80 before all the good healers were done leveling.

Goes both ways. I sometimes get tanks when on my WHM who clearly assume I'm going to Holy Spam but aren't effectively using their cool-down or sufficiently avoiding AoE on mass pulls so even with all my tricks the window for using Holy is small to non-existent and with my CDs blown I'm just spamming Cure2 while hoping the DPS can keep up. Which is not to say you are wrong, as I prioritize keeping the tank alive (my own errors and misclicks notwithstanding). Everyone has tools to make big pulls go well, and if they don't want to use them, keep the pulls small as that's still more efficient than wiping. This goes as well for those DPS seem allergic to their AoE skills

[Drayce1]

Goes both ways. I sometimes get tanks when on my WHM who clearly assume I'm going to Holy Spam but aren't effectively using their cool-down or sufficiently avoiding AoE on mass pulls so even with all my tricks the window for using Holy is small to non-existent and with my CDs blown I'm just spamming Cure2 while hoping the DPS can keep up. Which is not to say you are wrong, as I prioritize keeping the tank alive (my own errors and misclicks notwithstanding). Everyone has tools to make big pulls go well, and if they don't want to use them, keep the pulls small as that's still more efficient than wiping. This goes as well for those DPS seem allergic to their AoE skills

No, it does not. Well, bad tanks anyway. I never assume my whms will holy spam, I always assume they will just stone spam, from a distance, while healing at the last second. The good ones can holy spam while keeping me up without forcing me to clemency or even having to use my cooldowns, just my shelltron. But those are rare, oh so very rare.....

Sighs..... I dont even assume my DPS will use AoE either. I expect the absolute worst of every single player until proven otherwise, its why I prefer PLD when having to do 4 man content. Allows me to carry groups.

[tinythinker]

No, it does not. Well, bad tanks anyway. I never assume my whms will holy spam, I always assume they will just stone spam, from a distance, while healing at the last second. The good ones can holy spam while keeping me up without forcing me to clemency or even having to use my cooldowns, just my shelltron. But those are rare, oh so very rare.....

Sighs..... I dont even assume my DPS will use AoE either. I expect the absolute worst of every single player until proven otherwise, its why I prefer PLD when having to do 4 man content. Allows me to carry groups.

"It goes both ways" = the other side (in this case healers) also experiences something similar (in this case issues during pull but because of tanks). And as I said, whether or not I can just use oGCDs and do Holy spam depends on the tank. Undergeared for the number of mobs pulled, standing in AoE, failing with defensive CDs = hard to do that or impossible. At the beginning of expansions there will be lots of players of all roles who are still gearing + many who are new/returning + changes to abilities, yet some folks want to try to do their usual routine from the previous expansion and assume all will be well. Not you necessarily but it happens. Best to assume there will be some bumps in the road and be patient. If people want quick easy runs don't go into DF alone.

[gumas]

just got DR main scenario praetorium and i was amazed that we got wiped when fighting ultima weapon... twice.

then i realized everyone has sprout icon except me and this 1 tank who whisp me "this gonna take a while lol"

i feel ya buddy, i mean we got people who literally just stand still when there is an aoe icon blipping under his feet (the one that drop you a ship where you can get 1 hit kill if you stand at the ground zero)

[tinythinker]

just got DR main scenario praetorium and i was amazed that we got wiped when fighting ultima weapon... twice.

then i realized everyone has sprout icon except me and this 1 tank who whisp me "this gonna take a while lol"

i feel ya buddy, i mean we got people who literally just stand still when there is an aoe icon blipping under his feet (the one that drop you a ship where you can get 1 hit kill if you stand at the ground zero)

yeah, things move a lot faster and take longer to process when you are new. i hope it ended in a clear

[foussi]

just got DR main scenario praetorium and i was amazed that we got wiped when fighting ultima weapon... twice.

then i realized everyone has sprout icon except me and this 1 tank who whisp me "this gonna take a while lol"

i feel ya buddy, i mean we got people who literally just stand still when there is an aoe icon blipping under his feet (the one that drop you a ship where you can get 1 hit kill if you stand at the ground zero)

Makes one question how they all survived the previous dungeons if they aint dodge the aoe.