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    Y'shtola, as a Thaumaturge, runs through pretty much every element. Fire of the Seventh Dawn, Ice of the Seventh Dawn, Stone of the Seventh Dawn, *Water of the Seventh Dawn*, etc, she casts each element once, then casts stronger versions of each element once, then casts Foul of the Seventh Dawn.

    So, yeah. Y'shtola has a Water spell. Maybe one day it'll be incorporated into a class, or made into a class of its own.
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    The Water magic line was always a classic black mage thing... Except for this game where it was a conjurer thing in 1.0 and then an enemy only thing now.

    That IS a little weird.

    Geomancer could be a class in the future, though, they could possibly learn water magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    The Water magic line was always a classic black mage thing... Except for this game where it was a conjurer thing in 1.0 and then an enemy only thing now.

    That IS a little weird.
    In 1.0, before the classes got redesigned for the jobs, CNJ was the elementar mage and THM was the priest mage (astral and umbral magic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In 1.0, before the classes got redesigned for the jobs, CNJ was the elementar mage and THM was the priest mage (astral and umbral magic)
    This. You had all the individual elements, or an Astral/Umbral "shadow-" or "balance-" priest. Honestly I really liked the original Thaumaturge concept, especially, even if the implementation left much to be desired. (But, this is 1.x we're talking about. What didn't?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In 1.0, before the classes got redesigned for the jobs, CNJ was the elementar mage and THM was the priest mage (astral and umbral magic)
    yeah , thm was a mix of FFXI rdm / drk , with blood magic even , sacrifice , blood rite , bio , dia , poison, slow , gravity , absorb-X , dark seal ect

    while conjurer was a whm/blm , with elemental spells and white magic , cure , protect , poisona , paralyna

    water magic existed back then : water I , water II , flood , and dot versions of elemental in case of water drown I-II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    Y'shtola, as a Thaumaturge, runs through pretty much every element. Fire of the Seventh Dawn, Ice of the Seventh Dawn, Stone of the Seventh Dawn, *Water of the Seventh Dawn*, etc, she casts each element once, then casts stronger versions of each element once, then casts Foul of the Seventh Dawn.

    So, yeah. Y'shtola has a Water spell. Maybe one day it'll be incorporated into a class, or made into a class of its own.
    I haven't run any trust with Y'shtola yet, so I haven't seen her use both light- and dark-aspected spells while on the same job, but I'll take your word for it.

    Let's keep in mind, though, that the NPCs still borderline follow the old 1.x route where what you learned from, say, Conjurer, could in many ways carry over to whatever other caster you take up. And, she was a Conjurer just last expansion... and also the original user of Collective Unconscious (or it's bubble defense at least)...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I haven't run any trust with Y'shtola yet, so I haven't seen her use both light- and dark-aspected spells while on the same job, but I'll take your word for it.

    Let's keep in mind, though, that the NPCs still borderline follow the old 1.x route where what you learned from, say, Conjurer, could in many ways carry over to whatever other caster you take up. And, she was a Conjurer just last expansion... and also the original user of Collective Unconscious (or it's bubble defense at least)...?
    Yeah, I didn't really think much of it when she threw a Stone in, as she has roots in conjury, but the Water spell in particular caught me off guard. I forget if she used an Aero of the Seventh Dawn, I only watched her once during the Qitana Raval, but considering she uses all the other elements (fire, ice, lightning, earth and water), I can only assume she did. Both Water and Aero are also Conjury things, but since conjurers these days barely even touch the element, Water was surprising to see. Good graphical effect, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    Yeah, I didn't really think much of it when she threw a Stone in, as she has roots in conjury, but the Water spell in particular caught me off guard. I forget if she used an Aero of the Seventh Dawn, I only watched her once during the Qitana Raval, but considering she uses all the other elements (fire, ice, lightning, earth and water), I can only assume she did. Both Water and Aero are also Conjury things, but since conjurers these days barely even touch the element, Water was surprising to see. Good graphical effect, too.
    She uses Tornado of the Seventh Dawn. She also has the IV level spell of I believe all the elements, which leads into her version of Foul if I remember right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    She uses Tornado of the Seventh Dawn. She also has the IV level spell of I believe all the elements, which leads into her version of Foul if I remember right.
    Yeah, that's right. When I did Raval, I watched her rotation, she did the normal version of every element once, then the IV version of every element, then Foul of the Seventh Dawn, then back to the normal variants.
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