To healers enjoying 5.0: a gil for your thoughts?

[ksuyen]

I also very much enjoying SCH. I think the class design is pretty much balance now. WHM used to have a problem but now they buffed it while SCH is toned down slightly. As for out of combat aetherflow, I can live with that, just need to adjust my playstyle a little bit. Overall SCH is more engaging and fun.

[ForteNightshade]

At the end of the day, sure, you had to make choices like giving an Arrow to a BLM over a Summoner or something like that, which is a little more complex than what we have now and requires knowing something about the other jobs, but it wasn't that interactive. And while I'd like to see some uniqueness bought into Divination along with a shorter CD, I'm really enjoying how fast I can throw out buffs. Plus, no more card drama. Everyone feels the love!

This is not really the case though. Assuming all players are of comparable skill, you will always target the one doing the highest damage. This will very often result in a select few jobs getting the majority of cards in an optimized setting. Ironically, the only exception to this requires a parser to know when certain job's bursts may push them just above the usual targets.

As for healer DPS. They are still expected to deal damage. In fact, WHM is become so monstrous, it's eclipsing tanks. All the while having far better healing and MP sustain compared to AST.

[Jib]

This is not really the case though. Assuming all players are of comparable skill, you will always target the one doing the highest damage. This will very often result in a select few jobs getting the majority of cards in an optimized setting. Ironically, the only exception to this requires a parser to know when certain job's bursts may push them just above the usual targets.

As for healer DPS. They are still expected to deal damage. In fact, WHM is become so monstrous, it's eclipsing tanks. All the while having far better healing and MP sustain compared to AST.

Shushhhh dont say it out loud... We WHM were made fun off all of Stormblood.. Let us have a bit of fun :PPPPP

[nalol]

I'm honestly mixed about SCH

I'm now 80 ... like I said in another post ... I feel the new abilities we have underwhelming.

fey blessing, seraph (consolation and seraphic veil) seem weak.

for lvl 76 and 80 ... Indom is still way better to me

indom - 400 pot AoE 30s CD while fey which costs fey gauge is 350 pet pot (so like 300 ?) and 60s CD ... it feels weak

consolation is 300 with shield .. u barely see the shield on the health bar and it's ok to add a bit of AoE heal, but they are weak all by themself.

lvl 80 abilities just don't make me feel more powerful like indom made me feel a stronger healer.

but I cannot really check numbers .. coz my ACT doesn't want to work anymore :'(

[AkumaHomura]

Maybe after 5+ years ONLY playing healers in FFXIV I am done with healing...

I've just been playing Gunbreaker this expansion. I tried out ast since it's been my main since HW but they've just removed all the fun and complexity from the class

[MerlinCross]

Shushhhh dont say it out loud... We WHM were made fun off all of Stormblood.. Let us have a bit of fun :PPPPP

So will we get blamed for not doing enough damage again?

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I'm very happy with Shadowbringers in general and WHM at 80 in particular... its a strange feeling having little to nothing of consequence to complain about in an MMO >_>

The new lilies for WHM are great imo. I can heal on the move quite easily and I always seem to have an answer when I need one. If I had any small criticisms it would be that using the lily abilities would feel more fluid if they were off the gcd and that the blood lily mechanic feels arbitrarily restrictive. I wish I could just use regular lilies to cast Misery when healing isn't needed and I have a surplus of lilies. But these are small criticisms and I won't cry if things stay as they are.

I've leveled AST a bit but am not 80 yet with it. With that said, it doesn't "feel" bad to me. I have to get used to using Lightspeed more frequently to manage my mp better but I haven't been so bereft of MP that its hindered my ability to keep a party alive. I'm still getting used to the card changes but in general I like them because now I don't suffer from a string of bad/useless draws. Whatever I draw is useful. The thing I need to remember now is once I have my seals, I need to use minor arcana with my draws until I use divination and need seals again.

I haven't delved into SCH yet so I'll have to refrain from any input on that job.

[seida]

I'm actually not as unhappy with SCH as I thought I would be.

Personally, I still really miss two things: energy drain, and using aetherflow out of battle. The former because we now have nothing to dump aetherflow stacks into, and the latter because it's irritating and clunky.

I like recitation, and the animations for biolysis and broil III are nice. I do miss all our old DPS skills, as art of war is nice but very MP heavy.

I've also found Seraph more useful than I was expecting.

So I think with just a bit of tweaking it could be hugely improved.

[Alphras]

So will we get blamed for not doing enough damage again?

Yes you will. Nothing changed reagarding that. The only change is that all healers press the same buttons for dealing damage ... except WHM who is the only healer with a damage cooldown.

Maybe you need a new group if you are the one getting blamed to begin with.

[MerlinCross]

Yes you will. Nothing changed reagarding that. The only change is that all healers press the same buttons for dealing damage ... except WHM who is the only healer with a damage cooldown.

Maybe you need a new group if you are the one getting blamed to begin with.

No no no no, I didn't get blamed by a group or anything. I passively do Extreme and Savage but that might change this expansion thanks to a new small FC I got dragged into.

But it seems Healers, and Tanks, were expected to push a lot more damage by the community to the point of Tanks turning off Stances to do so. Now that Tanks have full damage, they can't get blamed for being behind anymore really. Healers however...,