Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[HyoMinPark]

The post I quoted of yours might have been pointed at a different person and I may have missed that, but it seemed that might have been directed at me due to me being the one to initially bring up tunnel vision that the person you quoted was replying to at the time. Hence why went looking for the dev comment about healer dps.

I don't condone the standing around and not doing anything playstyle either. But some of that does come into play when first learning a particular dungeon/trial for healers, as healing by its nature tends to be more reactive and not proactive. Which is part of why I prefer Sch over Whm, as it requires being more proactive to do well.

The individual who you replied to that asked the question about why certain healers prefer a no-DPS playstyle was referencing a person who literally said that they do not DPS as a healer because they are a healer, not a damage dealer.

Hope you don't get me for your healer then. I do not DPS in dungeons/raids. I am there to keep the party alive and that is it, I am a healer not a DPS. I have my dancer for then I want to DPS.

General question and I mean no insult, but why do you, and people who play like you, enjoy not using their full set of abilities? What about not assisting your team in killing the enemies (meaning you need to heal less) is fun and fulfilling?

This was the comment I was referring to.

I did not see that statement. Good to know that the design philosophy hasn't changed regarding healers and their damage. (the final boss in Dohn Meg(sp?) has one phase I can clearly see being one of the exceptions mentioned)

I don't think the exceptions are dungeons, but things like week 1 Savage (where players are all in crafted gear with no Savage gear) and Ultimate. I know for sure that the latter considers healer DPS in the equation - I do not believe groups would be able to meet Enrage if they went in with the standard 2/2/4 comp and neither healer were contributing. Not unless the rest of the players were bleeding edge, and, let's face it: not everyone who tackles Ultimate falls into that category of player.

[Cincierta]

As for my story of the day. I think I was hexing instead of buffing my partners. Doing Lakshmi for Trial roulette and it seemed every DPS I put as my dance partner was the next to die or forget to pop Vril. Which would then in turn be me tossing it to the next DPS and repeat. Did get an odd tingly feeling being the only Dancer in that trial, the music just seemed right for the class.

You were the secret God of Death that run, and would've made Corey proud.

[Hash_Browns]

Just got a nice NIN during an Alliance Raid roulette (Labyrinth of the Ancients).

Pulled every boss, and enemy before any tank could get to them. When asked not to pull, they said it didn't matter that they pulled. Proceeded to pull as soon as they got into the room with the 3 enemy spawners, and everyone was forced into A, causing a wipe.

Tried to kick them, but they wouldn't roll on loot until they pulled the boss, meaning it was impossible to do anything about them. They also seemed to be with the DNC in our group as well. The DNC would do nothing but dance emotes during the boss.

[Crushnight]

So far i've only encountered 2 people in this expansion that have been horrible but for different reasons

1. Hlr in my lv77 dungeon run decided to pull more mobs than anyone including tank were aware of and promptly got eaten alive, tank jokingly said ok pull more then, i said if you want bigger pulls it is best to ask for them rather than just doing them expecting us to know your intent. We were met with silence and they continued doing it throughout >_> they also died to the 1st and 2nd boss while the rest of us who were new to it, as the hlr had lv 77 gear on means they had run it at least once before, were doing mechanics fine and lived XD

2. Joined a pf for Titania had a drg, mch, brd, dnc(me) for dps i called W since no puddles had been claimed at that point apparently it was drg position so i then call E apparently tank so i just said for melee position that is free, oh boy was that a mistake, the mch went off on one saying you(me) are ranged to which i reply we have 3 ranged dps and i'd like a melee spot for dances/flourish since they are based around me, mch proceeded to insult me and someone else left the instance then party and last i get to see is kick the "insert not allowed to type thing here". Well i should've reported but i vented it to friends joined another party and it was the best farm party i had only 1 person with Titania wep and was getting her to 40-41% consistently before adds so I felt way better after that.

[Schan]

Ah yes, even with enmity basically being impossible to fail at now, some tanks will defy the impossible and not get aggro anyway. I feel for ya.

After today i feel this on a spiritual level u_u

Can DPS get diversion back... please?

[Endeleon]

If tanks could stop wall to wall pulling in The Twinning with 430 AF gear that'd be swell and grand. You barely even meet the dungeon ilvl requirements. It's not the time for speedruns.

[gumas]

just finish levelling ala mhigo and i swear sometimes i baffled at people inability to solve a very basic puzzle.

2 sprout, 1 dps 1 healer, second boss. when the boss suck your soul and you must run back to your body, those 2 just... i dont know, the dps start yelling "why i cant attack" after a while, while the healer just run to... whatever she want, and later both died and we got wiped. try again and the result are same and tank ask "you really dont know what to do? are you serious?" and they both "yes what should we do?"

i mean... a transparent body, your dead body in front and a VERY OBVIOUS yellow line connected to your body mean nothing to you? cmon, thats a very basic stuff there. no wonder yoshi keep making the game easier and easier.

[DarkMasamune]

just finish levelling ala mhigo and i swear sometimes i baffled at people inability to solve a very basic puzzle.

2 sprout, 1 dps 1 healer, second boss. when the boss suck your soul and you must run back to your body, those 2 just... i dont know, the dps start yelling "why i cant attack" after a while, while the healer just run to... whatever she want, and later both died and we got wiped. try again and the result are same and tank ask "you really dont know what to do? are you serious?" and they both "yes what should we do?"

i mean... a transparent body, your dead body in front and a VERY OBVIOUS yellow line connected to your body mean nothing to you? cmon, thats a very basic stuff there. no wonder yoshi keep making the game easier and easier.

To be super honest, I remember having a hard time noticing the body the first time I ran Ala Mhigo lol. But I think it was more confusion since I was trying to understand everything. I ended up figuring it out before it was too late thought.

[Seraph522]

just finish levelling ala mhigo and i swear sometimes i baffled at people inability to solve a very basic puzzle.

2 sprout, 1 dps 1 healer, second boss. when the boss suck your soul and you must run back to your body, those 2 just... i dont know, the dps start yelling "why i cant attack" after a while, while the healer just run to... whatever she want, and later both died and we got wiped. try again and the result are same and tank ask "you really dont know what to do? are you serious?" and they both "yes what should we do?"

i mean... a transparent body, your dead body in front and a VERY OBVIOUS yellow line connected to your body mean nothing to you? cmon, thats a very basic stuff there. no wonder yoshi keep making the game easier and easier.

Uh, no offense, but did either you or the tank (I'm assuming you were the other dps?) actually tell them what they were supposed to do? Because otherwise, you come across as kind of a jerk in this scenario, especially if the other dps and healer were sprouts. While the clues are there, not everyone recognizes exactly what's going on in the heat of the moment, and if your only reaction to their honest question of "what should we do?" is to act like they're idiots and be unhelpful, that's a dick move. People learn in different ways, and sometimes someone just needs to say something for it to click.

[Nanami_Naniwa]

To finish up with my WAR I was put into a leveling roulette with a random group. We ended up in the Vault. Quickly both DPS displayed that they don't care for dodging AoE and as expected 2nd Boss the DPS died several times. When the heal decided to not ress them anymore, a shit storm of blame and hate towards the healer started, claiming him to be the worst and some other - not to quote - harrassement.

So I did what every decent tank would do - Protect and defend the poor boy who was close to tears. They raged a bit more and finished their rant with a "Let's just finish this stupid dungeon."
Oh dear, you triggered your tank. So I started a vote kick against the one who was way more insulting than the other. The kick passed. The other DPS raged! He spit insults to both of us now. Guess what, right. We initiated another vote.
Afterwards we got two DPS, happy that only the last Boss was left, who were decent follows. The heal mumbled a "Thanks for standing up for me" before he left and I felt like this was a tank job well done.

Just... don't be a dick to people. On don't put blame to a green leaf healer who really tried to save your sorry asses several times.