Suspended for Otter Nonsense

[Zeonx]

All Japanese online and gaming communities both in-game and out of it love having heavy-handed moderating compared to western games.

That's why I almost never use my 3DS and Switch online. This is the only Japanese online game I play. Not interested in the babysitting nature of Japanese online moderation.

Well here is what I think about that its a miss representation of people in the west like those new rules they added, because of others acting differently they based it on that and basically bunched everyone with people who think differently. basically stereotyped us. then forced to be okay on the views of a group of people when we aren't the same as them.

as I said before do not put me in the same category, when they said well people are changing so we will change based on that, well they are assuming we all have changed and that we should be based around the rules of those people and its wrong.

I see it like this what they did.

its just like in FFXI the RMT were hunting NM's because they were worth gil, then instead of handling the real issue they turned the NM's item drops to Rare/ex where they were worth no money at all taking it out on innocent players trying to make gil to play the game, which it was hard enough to farm money in the first place lol

so they bunched us together instead of handling it they take a easy route.

no matter how much we ask them to change it we get told no or they can't or ignore.

same thing with reports appeals, it will always be no, they won't listen and ignore betcha nobody has ever been un banned making appeals not even worth having.

though it makes me wonder do they treat everyone the same way Ethnicity on banning because you know they do or they wouldn't say china has different rules to their game if they didn't.

[Joven]

All Japanese online and gaming communities both in-game and out of it love having heavy-handed moderating compared to western games.

That's why I almost never use my 3DS and Switch online. This is the only Japanese online game I play. Not interested in the babysitting nature of Japanese online moderation.

I would rather they be heavy handed so long as they're consistent, not ninja editing and sporatic, spontaneous suspensions/bans without warning.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

Most forums seem to becoming this way....really it seems to be usually driven by this crazy culture of hyper sensitivity and PC culture. You must conform, think and accept or you're removed. Free speech for the win friends!

[Zeonx]

Most forums seem to becoming this way....really it seems to be usually driven by this crazy culture of hyper sensitivity and PC culture. You must confirm, think and accept or you're removed. Free speech for the win friends!

You are 100% correct its what I was basically saying about bunching us up with people who cannot handle criticism.

its the old saying why dish it out if you cant handle it. Usually they are the ones to toss first stone, then once they've baited you into the thread and you reply its as if they cannot handle what you have said but expected you to handle what they said and reports you.

Instead of the GM's locking or deleting thread or going after the original person who started it they ban and let the guy who baited people into the mess go. the forums are becoming allazkham where if they couldn't handle your comment they thumbs you down and or erased comments to hide it.

then once FFXH forums were made people just bounced because of the power trip, its no different here because people have the power to report and if GM cannot use their own intuition on the issue then I don't know why they are Gm's that poses a problem.

cause if later someone makes a really cool forums nobody is going to want to stick around here, cause then you just have the same poster groups who report all the time for weird things nobody wants that tagged to account.

[Zeonx]

I am at my cousins right now he said he never said lazy but someone who replied to him and reported him for mentioning FFXI in a thread a while back.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-want../page11

his comments were these and he was banned for it.

The lot of you who keep talking about how long it takes, listen here I camped a NM on FFXI 24 hours just for brown belt item versus several other people and if I didn't get it I would camp even longer.

I know you all have tried FFXI what do you want it just to be handed to you without any work done haha I think SE cut you a break if you ask me.

I see nothing wrong with this comment either lol this is what he was banned for? this is while the other guy claimed my cousin said Lazy and im positive he reported him for it and my cousin was banned he's telling me that's the truth.

he only remembers that he got temp banned and he was confused because he never said it.


This is the type of stuff I am talking about and like my cousin is saying no when he appealed it he was swept under the rug because he thinks that a GM messed up and didn't want to look bad.

though cousin says he just gives up completely on trying to get un banned he played since ffxi since the start even moved to FFXIV after last FFXI expansion he just thinks he even called out GM and wanted to know why apparently he was upset he kept getting banned for really weird stuff like he wanted answers but nobody helped him out so like hes telling me he just gave up completely nothing he can do about it nobody will help him that he's posting on reddit now but left out of community stuff.

said he had a computer issue but couldn't even get help from the forums he had to figure it out on himself. Id let him post on mine but its against the rules I don't feel like getting banned.


He said happy 4th and that he only wants people to be aware just because you act correctly don't get baited into threads that look like trouble that was the mistake he did and he paid for it that if it seems harmless its probably not if they are fighting.

don't get into the middle of something that might just get you in trouble even if your post is innocent.

[StarRosie]

All in all, I probably won’t stop posting here entirely—but I am extremely hesitant to continue posting as of writing this, and I can understand it when some say that they feel the same. When some actions go punished but others that could be objectively considered more worse aren’t, it really makes you sit back and think about things. I’d like to be able to continue to give feedback, but previously mentioned, my desire to post here is honestly diluted quite a bit. I will probably be a bit more less active compared to normal for a while.

I am very much in the same boat. I like posting here and I like reading from and asking questions of folks who have a lot more knowledge about the game and picking up tips and stuff. Sometimes I have a civil discussion that I really like and others I 'respectfully' butt heads with someone. But, past events and the overall tone the forums have taken, have just sucked the desire to post out of me. (Save for mild shite posting and snarky retorts.) I have written up entire multi paragraph replies to some topics in the healers thread, topics in general discussion and a couple in the tank threads, but then scraped them because I either didn't want to deal with the aftermath or risk my post being seen as "Not OK" and getting removed...sometimes I take the dive and often very quickly regret it as the other side gets VERY aggressive...so, yeah.

I still distinctly remember in one thread a long while back, where either the OP or someone agreeing with them, was basically attacking me and shoving words down my throat and I eventually, very sternly put my foot down and stood my ground...my posts where I defended myself got removed, but their constant attack posts, were left up. That...really shot my desire to post here in the foot. I actually not long after that, took a hiatus from the forums. I didn't feel safe posting here if me defending myself is apparently not OK but some of the pretty horrendous behaviors by some groups of posters is A-OK.

Even now I feel afraid to post this...

So, I do feel ya there Hyo.

[Joven]

I am very much in the same boat. I like posting here and I like reading from and asking questions of folks who have a lot more knowledge about the game and picking up tips and stuff. Sometimes I have a civil discussion that I really like and others I 'respectfully' butt heads with someone. But, past events and the overall tone the forums have taken, have just sucked the desire to post out of me. (Save for mild shite posting and snarky retorts.) I have written up entire multi paragraph replies to some topics in the healers thread, topics in general discussion and a couple in the tank threads, but then scraped them because I either didn't want to deal with the aftermath or risk my post being seen as "Not OK" and getting removed...sometimes I take the dive and often very quickly regret it as the other side gets VERY aggressive...so, yeah.

I still distinctly remember in one thread a long while back, where either the OP or someone agreeing with them, was basically attacking me and shoving words down my throat and I eventually, very sternly put my foot down and stood my ground...my posts where I defended myself got removed, but their constant attack posts, were left up. That...really shot my desire to post here in the foot. I actually not long after that, took a hiatus from the forums. I didn't feel safe posting here if me defending myself is apparently not OK but some of the pretty horrendous behaviors by some groups of posters is A-OK.

Even now I feel afraid to post this...

So, I do feel ya there Hyo.

I really don't understand their methodology for deleting posts either. It seems to be based solely on whether the post gets reported or not. On this very thread I've had a post removed where I politely warned someone that if they continued to harass people and try to derail the thread that I would report them, yet the post I made calling out the mods for shady practices is still there.

[Zarabeth]

Maybe this will help. Forum Rules

All you really have to do is be decent to each other.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

^ Not really. That's how the rules make it sound but it's all dependent on how the mod sees things. If they are one of the hyper sensitive types then you may get a ban for something ridiculous. Unfortunately these types are really common these days.

[Joven]

Maybe this will help. Forum Rules

All you really have to do is be decent to each other.

Everyone here is well aware of the forum guidelines. However, as many people have already stated on here: it doesn't matter whether you're decent towards others and play by the rules, you can still have your posts removed and be suspended/banned for whatever reason without warning while others who blatantly violate said guidelines go unpunished.