SE, I thought you Learned from 1.0...

[Wanzer]

To be fair, OP isn't that wrong about the trees we can go under. It's even more obvious on the mini map since we can see the exact same pattern everywhere. It doesn't bother me that they reuse props (because videogame), but it's more about the fact they are all turned in the exact same direction. They clearly could have just turned them a bit differently, so it kinda reminds The Fringes with the countless same rocks, but just not that bad. Of course, it doesn't ruin the game, and it's nowhere near the copy/paste areas from the V1; but yeah, that's something I noticed as well.

[CorbinDallas]

Okay, I am not talking about that copypasting, that's fine. But does anyone remember this here? Especially point 3?



And now they released two half baked races and also more or less half baked jobs.

And I am not even talking about the missing genders. Hrothgar hair options and the lack of headgear was released with the mindset to patch the stuff into the game later. They don't even have released the naming conventions here in the forums yet, because well, you can release them later, right?

Then we have the two new jobs wich don't have the old primal weapons, raid weapons and not even ultimate weapons as glamour options. All jobs got them so far and yes we expected to get them. If SE plans to patch them into the game later is unknown, but the community was already talking about it.

The new jobs don't seem half baked at all. In fact everyone I've spoken to is really happy with them.

Regarding the final point about patching out problems. Do you honestly believe, deep down, that glamour and aesthetic choice are an actual "problem" that renders the game unfun and unplayable? That is the kind of problem they talk about in that slide, the ones that make the game fundamentally broken, boring, and unplayable.

A glamour here and there isn't a problem, get over it and stop misquoting something so you can shout from your soapbox. They would never get anything done if glamour of all things was considered an issue.

[HyoMinPark]

To be fair, OP isn't that wrong about the trees we can go under. It's even more obvious on the mini map since we can see the exact same pattern everywhere. It doesn't bother me that they reuse props (because videogame), but it's more about the fact they are all turned in the exact same direction. They clearly could have just turned them a bit differently, so it kinda reminds The Fringes with the countless same rocks, but just not that bad. Of course, it doesn't ruin the game, and it's nowhere near the copy/paste areas from the V1; but yeah, that's something I noticed as well.

The funny thing is that 1.0 had copy-pastes that were just as you described: the same thing turned a different direction.

Okay, I am not talking about that copypasting, that's fine. But does anyone remember this here? Especially point 3?



And now they released two half baked races and also more or less half baked jobs.

And I am not even talking about the missing genders. Hrothgar hair options and the lack of headgear was released with the mindset to patch the stuff into the game later. They don't even have released the naming conventions here in the forums yet, because well, you can release them later, right?

Then we have the two new jobs wich don't have the old primal weapons, raid weapons and not even ultimate weapons as glamour options. All jobs got them so far and yes we expected to get them. If SE plans to patch them into the game later is unknown, but the community was already talking about it.

While I'm irritated that we don't have Ultimate DNC/GNB weapons or Primal weapons, what does this really have to do with the thread topic of supposedly rampant copy-pasting in one of the new areas?

[Wanzer]

The funny thing is that 1.0 had copy-pastes that were just as you described: the same thing turned a different direction.

I know, but with just a tree and not a full path or structure, it makes it less obvious.
But, to be honest, there is so much things around, it's not like The Fringes. I noticed it, sure, but it wasn't the end of the world for this map.

[Callinon]

I noticed the pyramid stairs were identical. I didn't care. I was done with them within 2 minutes.

Trying to compare this to the copy/pasta extravaganza that was the original Black Shroud is intellectually dishonest.

[Awha]

@OP You monster I did not notice until you mentioned it, now I am unable to not see it. RIP me.

[Camiie]

The zone...
The Rak'tika Greatwoods
It has far too many cuts and pastes for my liking.


The Stairs on the pyramids.
The trees you can go under.

Welcome to pretty much every game ever.

[Lunalepsy]

1.0 was nice, but now it's all for the sake of simplicity. It's *too stressful!*

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

1.0 was nice, but now it's all for the sake of simplicity. It's *too stressful!*

1.0 was nice... Wat.... Did you even play 1.0?

[Mjollnir]

1.0 Black Shroud was a copy/paste labyrinth because you were *supposed* to get lost and turned around in there. And obviously, by the irritation it caused some players here, it did a fantastic job - unless of course they never explored/gathered/hunted NMs there and are just repeating what they've read.

If it wasn't by design, then they would have used the same methods across all/more of the zones, not just one. As it was, the phenomenon was minimal elsewhere.