Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Player
    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,739
    Character
    Livia Bloodletter
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100

    Could melee please be allowed to share gear.

    So far melee is the only role that have 3 different armors, something Tanks, Ranged, Caster and Healer does not have an issue with.

    Just slap dex and str on it and call it a day.

    Not like the primary stats effects overlap, and even then all the melee jobs are highly dexterous.

    Not that we would loose out on glamour either seeing how you can glamour across job restrictions. And usually each sets of outfits we get have like 3-4 unique looking armors with minor differences between the roles. Often Nin shares look with MNK, sometimes it shares with Support, same for DRG with tanks and MNK. Sometimes Tank and Healer shares and so on..
    (3)
    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 07-04-2019 at 10:13 PM.

  2. #2
    Player
    ForteNightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    3,677
    Character
    Kurenai Tenshi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    The reason they haven't done this yet is due to the aesthetic differences between all four melee. While some sets do look similar, they also differentiate fairly often. This also makes melee have to role against four other players. Perhaps in 6.0 this can be revisited since we'll likely have another DPS added.
    (2)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  3. #3
    Player
    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,739
    Character
    Livia Bloodletter
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The reason they haven't done this yet is due to the aesthetic differences between all four melee. While some sets do look similar, they also differentiate fairly often. This also makes melee have to role against four other players. Perhaps in 6.0 this can be revisited since we'll likely have another DPS added.
    As stated the aesthetic differences is all over the place. Sometimes DRG shares looks with tank, sometimes it MNK, Ranged, Caster, Healer... And this goes for all the roles, sometimes they all share the exact same look.

    At worst case every dps role would have to roll against 4 other players, doesn't matter if you are melee, ranged or caster as long as there are 5 dps slots in a raid there is always the risk that all those players covers the same role.
    (4)
    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 07-04-2019 at 09:59 PM.

  4. #4
    Player
    Izanagi_Fiaresu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    266
    Character
    Merrick Jaeger
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    I just think we need another Maiming dps and Ninja to just be deleted and we are golden.
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    - Top Secret -
    Posts
    1,462
    Character
    Anarista Tarnyang
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    I don't wanna look at a Tank when I'm a NIN. D:
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    MaraD_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    290
    Character
    Hede Devaul
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    should only be 2 versions.
    armored, and non armored.

    MNK/NIN (using STR, not DEX for the NIN gear)
    SAM/DRG.

    this is how all sets should be made in the future. (not past content)
    all prior sets can either remain as is, or some can be remade to allow both. (such as SAM being allowed in some of the DRG sets, MNK into some of the NIN sets, etc. but also possible for SAM to be in some of the future MNK and NIN sets)

    changing primary stats wont mean anything, since we've seen them do it before with tanks, and their gear, so it's not some unreasonable change.
    (1)
    Last edited by MaraD_; 07-04-2019 at 11:23 PM.

  7. #7
    Player
    ForteNightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    3,677
    Character
    Kurenai Tenshi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    As stated the aesthetic differences is all over the place. Sometimes DRG shares looks with tank, sometimes it MNK, Ranged, Caster, Healer... And this goes for all the roles, sometimes they all share the exact same look.

    At worst case every dps role would have to roll against 4 other players, doesn't matter if you are melee, ranged or caster as long as there are 5 dps slots in a raid there is always the risk that all those players covers the same role.
    Dragoon has only ever shared an aesthetic with tanks. The only exception where gear is entirely all over the place is leveling dungeons since they reuse old stuff. If you look up raid, tome and alliance gear, Dragoon typically has a unique model or a variant of tanks. And that is precisely why they don't want to make melee DPS all one aesthetic.

    But that risk increases with your scenario. Currently, I only have to worry about another Dragoon. If all the melee shared Slaying, it's far more likely I'll have someone else rolling against me.
    (1)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  8. #8
    Player
    Reimmi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    1,407
    Character
    Nia Niyah
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    It'd help if the next dps is maiming (big hammer DPS?) and they move ninja to striking instead of it being it's own thing
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,739
    Character
    Livia Bloodletter
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Dragoon has only ever shared an aesthetic with tanks.
    Ironworks: DRG shares with MNK, NIN shares with Ranged
    Hellfire: Tank shares with MNK, DRG is unique
    Shire: Tank shares with DRG, MNK with NIN
    Gordia: DRG and MNK, NIN and Ranged
    Midan: DRG and MNK...
    Alexandrian: DRG got Tank shoulders but MNK body. Nin shares with caster, ranged with healer.
    68 vendor (new and unique to SB): Tank shares with Healer.
    Deltascape: DRG shares with NIN, Ranged with tank.

    Do tell me how this isn't all over the place again?
    (2)
    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 07-05-2019 at 12:34 AM.