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  1. #31
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    and occasionally my Botanist looks like a Fisher (or vice versa).
    I think you mean like a DoL class. Botanist can't wear Fisher exclusive gear
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  2. #32
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    Lunalepsy's Avatar
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    ... as long as we aren't in battle

    it's funny that we can cast individual piece with glamor prism everywhere but glamor plate only limit in town
    Yes, please!
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    Clicked's Avatar
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    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 83
    How is there an inventory limit when you can see the actual glamour plates and items from anywhere, but just not apply?

    Anyway, not a huge deal. I usually revisit the Crystarium anyway to equip new stuff and slot materia, convert old stuff, etc. It's a good break time from the plot.
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  4. #34
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    I would like to know what exactly prevents us from using glamour plates everywhere. Did Square ever say anything about it? Like you said, we can Glamour individual pieces no matter where we are. But Glamour Plates only work in cities. Why?
    Glamour plates require that your stored glamour configuration sit somewhere on a database. They'd have to read that data which isn't a step that would be required to glamour a single piece, which would basically just be an ID updated in the database.

    This is just an educated guess, but it's restricted to cities for this reason, similar to accessing of retainers in cities...which in turn run less game logic (no enemies to fight, no combat allowed, no fate logic, etc.). The game just isn't setup to be able to run the logic needed to apply the glamour plates and be able to support all the other field activities that aren't present in cities.
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  5. #35
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Would be nice. Going to the Crystarium every time I equip new gear is a bit annoying, but nothing of a high priority tbh - once we reach level cap we won't change gear as often.
    But that's kind of when it's needed most, when all your roles are sharing a single set of gear and you want them to be glamour differently...

    I still haven't used the system much, but I'm considering it for my Crafters, even though it won't work at the namazu area for my crafting dailies...
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  6. #36
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    But that's kind of when it's needed most, when all your roles are sharing a single set of gear and you want them to be glamour differently...
    That's only one of the potential uses for the glamour plates though - one that it doesn't do so well with its current design (although it does work in cities).

    The real use of the glamour dresser right now is being able to build and store plates of the costumes you frequently apply to your gear, instead of using prisms every time. You can reapply them as frequently as you want, without spending prisms and without having to carry the glamour items with you. Being able to do that in some places is still better than only having the prisms, though you can keep using them as well.

    The "can't use it in the field" is also less of a hindrance at endgame where you're most likely buying your gear upgrades from a town vendor rather than getting them from quests and dungeons.

    I keep multiple plates for my main classes, so I can switch costume designs when I feel like it (eg. my main currently has four plates for SMN and my healer alt has five for WHM), and plates for classes that I'm leveling currently. It's so much easier and quicker than applying those glamours with prisms - and it also makes glamouring jewellery a lot more worthwhile, whether you just want it invisible or you pick out pieces that suit the outfit.
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  7. #37
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    That only explains the limitation on where you can access the dresser itself, with its hundreds of items. I can understand access to that being limited (though I do wish they'd add a housing item for it — we've already got a separate house interior instance there).

    What's being requested for in the field is just the ability to access a plate that has at most a dozen items. They should be able to add open access to that much without breaking their servers. We wouldn't even need access to all the plates and the interface to look at them if they would at least let the particular plate linked to our gear set be applied when we apply the gear set itself. (That way, adding more plates doesn't increase the size it's dealing with if it's only picking up one of them at a time anyway.)
    A plate might only have a dozen items on it, but those items are stored in the dresser.
    In order to just access the plate and not the dresser, applying items to a glamour plate would have to duplicate those items into a third inventory system for plates that's separate from the dresser. That's just adding more layers of complexity to an already overly complicated system.
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  8. #38
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    A plate might only have a dozen items on it, but those items are stored in the dresser.
    In order to just access the plate and not the dresser, applying items to a glamour plate would have to duplicate those items into a third inventory system for plates that's separate from the dresser. That's just adding more layers of complexity to an already overly complicated system.
    I actually think the plates are already a third inventory separate to the dresser, and items on them are technically duplicated rather than "the dresser item shown on the plate".

    Once you put an item on a plate, dyeing the version in the dresser or even removing the item from the dresser has no effect on the plate item.

    Still, they have a long pattern of creating small "side inventories" because the main inventory can't be expanded (due to short-sighted programming). Retainers, housing storage and armoire items can't be accessed in the field either.
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  9. #39
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm not sure if I'm for glamoring *everywhere* (during dungeons? raids? trials?), but at any sanctuary (so at least everywhere there's an aethyrite crystal) would be fine, IMO.
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Heck go all the way, who not in battle too!?
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