Any chance on classic XI-style "pull camps?"

[Arcell]

Both are similar in boredom imo. Actually. Grinding in general is quite boring. Pick your poison I suppose.

Agreed. I mean you can stay in one spot and have someone bring mobs to you or you can run around and kill mobs. In both scenarios you're mindlessly grinding on the same creatures. In one scenario, only one person has to do any kind of moving. Guess people just don't want to move their characters and would rather just mindlessly mash their skills to kill. Not saying that roaming takes much more skill/attention though.

[Fated]

No thank you

[TheVedis]

Grinding is grinding is grinding is grinding

it doesnt matter how you do it, in 1 spot or roaming

the difference is several people abusing standing camps with afks since its harder to be noticed when you arent getting left behind while moving(or obviously on autofollow)

[Engineer]

I really don't care for the "roaming party" concept of this game and was wondering if the devs could shed some light on whether or not we can expect to see a shift back to traditional camps with a puller?

Honestly, this kind of setup allows for more roles to be played and really enhances the depth of combat and group dynamics.

Anyone out there agree?

No i want XIV to be XIV and not XI-2.

I agree pulling things that worked from XI to XIV is good, but not everything.

I love the derection of XIV roaming/link xp party system.

[Yves]

No i want XIV to be XIV and not XI-2.

I agree pulling things that worked from XI to XIV is good, but not everything.

I love the derection of XIV roaming/link xp party system.

I'd settle for both without any complaint. I just really liked the dynamic of what a stationary camp brings whereas skill = higher chains while right now higher chains are pretty much a function of not running out of mobs.

A great example is the old merit parties - COR and BRD pulling mobs and sleeping them while the melee did their thing and the tank gained hate prior to the mob waking was a ton of fun and did require a reasonable amount of skill. At the same time, this isn't for everyone so there should be an option there. Maybe longer mob range if the mob is hit as opposed to aggro to accommodate both groups?

[Rokien]

They need to first make the battles longer ^.^

also more engaging! I'm leveling up thm all I do is thunder and thundara and it pretty much kills the mobs we are trying to kill, not to fun. I would love FFXI in grinding matters. At least if one person made a mistake we would all die in FFXI on a normal mob, that was always fun.

[Rhomagus]

I completely disagree, and I actually thought RDM was significantly more fun in XI at the lower levels when they introduced Fields of Valor, allowing me to have a mobile camp with a smaller group. Waiting for a puller was a huge waste of time. I don't agree that it allows for more roles to be played. The only thing you're missing is the "puller" and you still even have that in the form of a "scout" or first attacker, basically the one who leads the charge and picks the mob that everyone should be fighting. It's the same thing pretty much just without the time spent doing nothing.

Yes I do realize in the upper levels of XI you would get a constant stream of mobs that kept your attention but if you were a mage you would stay in the same place and never move. We have legs for a reason, the combo system works the way it does (especially for Pugilists) for a reason, and XIV's system is way better than the hurry up and wait system of XI.

[Kopuno]

And sadly people like you seem to think making this game more like XI is a good idea.

I love people like this. And you seem to think that making this game not like XI has made it successful. lol You win!

On topic: Yes I'd love stationary camps, running around gets old quicker then being able to sit and type while killing mobs rather then chasing something that the ARC and THMs kill before you get to touch. Should rename them from Roaming Parties to Auto Follow the THMs and ARCs in your party. You don't need a tank, You dont need any DPS other then THM,ARC. Then again, I guess that says something abotu what a joke partying is in XIV.

I truly miss the days of getting that extra Goblin and going "Oh shit.." Now you get 5 links and the 3/8 people are asleep.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

Waiting for a puller was a huge waste of time.

I really like stationary camps but I left before the whole Fields of Valor thing. You had to wait for a puller? Even in the Dunes most of my parties were very low downtime.

[Krausus]

They actually added quite a bit of mob clusters to the map, I was wandering near nophicas the other day and found quite a few spots where there where a lot of same type mobs in places that one could grind on without moving far. Also you dont roam much in strongholds either.