Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[DarkMasamune]

Got the pleasure of being introduced to a nice WHM while trying to upgrade my armor via Malikah's Well. I've started to main WAR, so I try not to pull wall to wall, especially since I feel like people are adjusting to new skills, hot bar changes, and gear upgrades.

When I got in, the WHM started giving instructions to me immediately, and proceeded to pull. When I got a hold of the enemies, they started running to the next area, and once again as many as they could. I had to take them once again. During killing them all, I died, and was blamed by the WHM. I told the WHM not to pull for me, as people were new to the dungeon, and I was told to "learn to tank."

Once everyone respawned, we killed the few enemies left & got to the boss door. I was waiting for everyone to get to the boss door, and while I did, the WHM pulled the boss, and I told him "Welp, your problem now."

The DPS had the same idea, and left the boss room. Me & the WHM died, since I didn't tank the boss for them accepted fate, and the WHM then just.. well - left the dungeon.

Noice. I would've done the same.

I can't stand being told what to do as a tank, especially from the healer, ESPECIALLY if they start pulling stuff and bringing it to me.

You don't know my story, you don't know how I play, you don't even know if I'm nervous or not in the mood, you don't know if I had milk for my bowl of cereals this morning. Don't push me lol

[Cylestea]

I've seen several Guns not using tank stances in dungeons..... did they forget they dont give damage down anymore?

[Endeleon]

Got the pleasure of being introduced to a nice WHM while trying to upgrade my armor via Malikah's Well. I've started to main WAR, so I try not to pull wall to wall, especially since I feel like people are adjusting to new skills, hot bar changes, and gear upgrades.

When I got in, the WHM started giving instructions to me immediately, and proceeded to pull. When I got a hold of the enemies, they started running to the next area, and once again as many as they could. I had to take them once again. During killing them all, I died, and was blamed by the WHM. I told the WHM not to pull for me, as people were new to the dungeon, and I was told to "learn to tank."

Once everyone respawned, we killed the few enemies left & got to the boss door. I was waiting for everyone to get to the boss door, and while I did, the WHM pulled the boss, and I told him "Welp, your problem now."

The DPS had the same idea, and left the boss room. Me & the WHM died, since I didn't tank the boss for them accepted fate, and the WHM then just.. well - left the dungeon.

I can't believe there are people that want to control everyone and don't just do Trusts. :/ It's so rude.

[Fluffernuff]

I've seen several Guns not using tank stances in dungeons..... did they forget they dont give damage down anymore?

I can't rightly comment given my own experiences thus far and, of course, not being them.. but

In my haste, i have gone a pull or 2 in a new instance without it because i keep forgetting level sync wipes your buffs.
Another thing to consider, memes aside, is well... GNB being not only a new toy, but starting at 60 instead of 1, 1, or 30, makes it more appealing to someone that wants to try out tanking at a "relevant" level for the very first time. you're not generally going to be very good when youre completely blind and out of your element.

I've had people shocked at my tanking. for alot of reasons. sometimes its the shock of being a 75+ "not Thancred" in their ShB dungeons. other times, it's just about me being a "good tank", whatever that actually means. I've been given the impression that.... There hasnt been a particularly high number of passable tanks in EA so far, not just GNBs.

Well, this IS the DF thread, how have you all felt about tanks in general so far over the last 4 days? Has the quality really dropped down since GNB's release and the tanking changes? Or perhaps it is people not coming to grips with their new kits? I'm curious to know, since being a tank.... well, I cant really play with other tanks in 4-man dungeons.

[Hash_Browns]

I can't believe there are people that want to control everyone and don't just do Trusts. :/ It's so rude.

Noice. I would've done the same.

I can't stand being told what to do as a tank, especially from the healer, ESPECIALLY if they start pulling stuff and bringing it to me.

You don't know my story, you don't know how I play, you don't even know if I'm nervous or not in the mood, you don't know if I had milk for my bowl of cereals this morning. Don't push me lol

The major problem, outside of the rudeness was the fact that I wasn't overgeared for the dungeon. I was on par, at best. They weren't overgeared either. No one was - and everyone wanted gear from the dungeon.

Also, even though I've been running it for gear, generally I am still learning mechanics & a damn rotation. Things aren't going to die fast, not until people are comfortable with the classes.

They were wearing at-level gear, with an Ultimate trial weapon - but I'm not from their static - and I'm certainly not going to run new dungeons at Wall-to-wall levels until I at least know what I'm doing with my new hotbar setup.

[Cylestea]

I can't rightly comment given my own experiences thus far and, of course, not being them.. but

In my haste, i have gone a pull or 2 in a new instance without it because i keep forgetting level sync wipes your buffs.
Another thing to consider, memes aside, is well... GNB being not only a new toy, but starting at 60 instead of 1, 1, or 30, makes it more appealing to someone that wants to try out tanking at a "relevant" level for the very first time. you're not generally going to be very good when youre completely blind and out of your element.

I've had people shocked at my tanking. for alot of reasons. sometimes its the shock of being a 75+ "not Thancred" in their ShB dungeons. other times, it's just about me being a "good tank", whatever that actually means. I've been given the impression that.... There hasnt been a particularly high number of passable tanks in EA so far, not just GNBs.

Well, this IS the DF thread, how have you all felt about tanks in general so far over the last 4 days? Has the quality really dropped down since GNB's release and the tanking changes? Or perhaps it is people not coming to grips with their new kits? I'm curious to know, since being a tank.... well, I cant really play with other tanks in 4-man dungeons.

i've been joying them just irks me cause they just dart off without doing it and dont answer when you point it out.

[Lynesse]

Well, this IS the DF thread, how have you all felt about tanks in general so far over the last 4 days? Has the quality really dropped down since GNB's release and the tanking changes? Or perhaps it is people not coming to grips with their new kits? I'm curious to know, since being a tank.... well, I cant really play with other tanks in 4-man dungeons.

I know this question wasn't aimed at me, but...

I don't know!

Tank health bars are ping-ponging something fierce.

I've developed so many tricks to keep tanks alive. I've had to use them all. Thank heaven for Emergency Tactics. Truly.

I've worked Dissipation into my routine because I'm eating through so much Aetherflow.

I wouldn't say I'm having a hard time. But I feel like I'm working way harder than everyone else.

[Seraphor]

Tanks are certainly squishier now, and they seem to have tried to make mitigation more active than reactive, probably to make up for the lack of enmity management.
DRK with TBN for example, can now be spammed pretty much on cooldown, and you want to time it correctly to get your free Edge/Flood for Darkside.
DRK without TBN... ouch.

[Lynesse]

But it's like they get burst down from full to 40% every few seconds.

My SO says to me, "WAR has Raw Intuition. It's 20% mitigation."

I look at the skill -- for 5 seconds!

If I were a WAR in DF, I'd stack Raw Intuition with another cooldown to ease the initial burst when I want to pull wall-to-wall. Or something! Do more than just pop Rampart and hope for the best, please, if you're going to be the minimum item level and pull more than you have any business pulling!

I may be exaggerating. I may not be. I don't know. I need a bigger sample size to tell. But something doesn't feel right.

[LalaRu]

...something doesn't feel right.

Some healers cried out loud that healing is boring and they will dps to full the downtime and because, why not, do something just to kill boredom. Got served. I find now myself 100% uptime healing quite often.

Add to this, the usual people that won't avoid the avoidable, and keeping the party alive today is a challenge. I already had to choose who let stay alive and who not, quite a number of times.