SCH is no longer fun to play! Detailed review

[Gaethan_Tessula]

So, pretty what was expected. The balance changes seem to be entirely based around minimizing inter-player drama (job-meta feel bads, healer DPS debates, more complex jobs leading to wipes leading to drama) rather than correctly interfacing with content and being engaging.

Only have SCH at 54 on my main and 70 on an alt, but I can corroborate that old content, at least, is utterly dire as Scholar now. I was already unmotivated to play WHM for anything less than solo-healing EX's in Stormblood, and new SCH at <71 is by far worse than that.

Dev team, if you want pure healers, where's the freaking damage?

[RyuDragnier]

Dev team, if you want pure healers, where's the freaking damage?

In the Shadowbringers dungeons. Most wall to wall pulls have ended with me having used everything to keep the tank up, the tank having used everything to keep themselves up, and the DPS having spammed AoEs in a frantic panic to avoid the tank going down. The damage is there if you're doing multipulls, it's not there much outside of a few dungeons if you're doing singles.

[EaMett]

In the Shadowbringers dungeons. Most wall to wall pulls have ended with me having used everything to keep the tank up, the tank having used everything to keep themselves up, and the DPS having spammed AoEs in a frantic panic to avoid the tank going down. The damage is there if you're doing multipulls, it's not there much outside of a few dungeons if you're doing singles.

You can cut down on requiring GCDs for wall to wall pulls. There are a couple of really spicy pulls in some dungeons but most wall pulls are pretty easy to handle with your ogcd cooldowns if your tank is awake and trying. You have to be awake yourself though, which is good because we'd be dying with our single button AoW spam if not.

[RyuDragnier]

You can cut down on requiring GCDs for wall to wall pulls. There are a couple of really spicy pulls in some dungeons but most wall pulls are pretty easy to handle with your ogcd cooldowns if your tank is awake and trying. You have to be awake yourself though, which is good because we'd be dying with our single button AoW spam if not.

Gear unfortunately takes a role as well. I ended up spamming the 75 dungeon just to gear out my SCH and had quite a bit of difficulties at first. It really didn't help that several of the tanks and DPS were undergeared themselves, whether by just gunning through the story or because it's an alt job, I'm not sure.

[EaMett]

Gear unfortunately takes a role as well. I ended up spamming the 75 dungeon just to gear out my SCH and had quite a bit of difficulties at first. It really didn't help that several of the tanks and DPS were undergeared themselves, whether by just gunning through the story or because it's an alt job, I'm not sure.

Absolutely. It's also worth noting that I did most of my leveling (up to 77) on day 1. Needless to say that my random pug party members were almost all wearing UCoB/UwU weapon glams. Not exactly your average player base and skill does make a difference. I definitely didn't experience the content the same way many others have/will in the following days.

[Ruzha]

I do agree that healer aoe mp requirement should be lowered. maybe 500-550 range, or raise the potency. almost every class has a higher potency AND no recourse management on it.

an aoe dot that requires a Aether point to spend would be really nice. it could also spread biolysis as well.

[Gaethan_Tessula]

In the Shadowbringers dungeons. Most wall to wall pulls have ended with me having used everything to keep the tank up, the tank having used everything to keep themselves up, and the DPS having spammed AoEs in a frantic panic to avoid the tank going down. The damage is there if you're doing multipulls, it's not there much outside of a few dungeons if you're doing singles.

From what I've seen, groups with both HLR and TNK at full ilvl for a given leveling dungeon (so far, the first three) don't have issues multi-pulling unless someone screws up. Damage spikes up and down, but it's the same "nuke it" healing tactics from the Heavensward multi-pull days. Which isn't particularly interesting when it's the one flavor for sale besides utter boredom, in my opinion (no mechanics besides orange-stuff on trash, difficulty is highly swingy based on ilvl). Also it doesn't exist in the current endgame EX trials/dungeon bosses apparently. Healing output feeling like Lakshmi EX, per this thread's testimonial, is NOT a great place to be when mashing one button or checking out between heals FF11 style is what you do when not healing.

[Yomiko_Nonaka]

In the Shadowbringers dungeons. Most wall to wall pulls have ended with me having used everything to keep the tank up, the tank having used everything to keep themselves up, and the DPS having spammed AoEs in a frantic panic to avoid the tank going down. The damage is there if you're doing multipulls, it's not there much outside of a few dungeons if you're doing singles.

yeah, no. it's like that at every expac's start. bardam's mettle was a nightmare at the time, and tanks were only pulling 2 packs of mobs. wall to walls in ShB most of the times means 3 packs.

there is absolutely no surprise in that.