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  1. #11
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    Marianno's Avatar
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    That actually happened in the 75lvl dungeon against the last boss. Had a paladin who thought he could not use tank stance. Healer went too heal right after the tank buster and party wide busters, healer took aggro, use lucid and still got one shot. Needless too say, it was pretty funny seeing how we were all torn too shreds lol
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  2. #12
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    WaterShield's Avatar
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    Lalah Elakta
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I've literally never even come close to losing aggro since early access started. Clearly y'all are getting some bad tanks that still think having their tank stance off will increase their DPS or something. I could sleep through it at this point and no one would be able to take the enemies off me.
    I've been getting aggro in packs as Dancer, from tanks that do have tank stance on ;-;

    Not sure what they were doing TBH.
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 07-02-2019 at 06:49 AM.

  3. #13
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    Mugear_bahamut's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Lothbrok
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson View Post
    Tanks, ignoring tank stance: "But muh DPS!!"
    Rest of the party: *dying*
    It's not even connected to tank stance anymore lol
    Moreover, starting this expac less aggro=less DPS.
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  4. #14
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    Marianno's Avatar
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Is that really an indication though? I mean, I thought that we could just ask our PC friends for help using their magical items to know your own dps range values.
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  5. #15
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    It's not even connected to tank stance anymore lol
    Moreover, starting this expac less aggro=less DPS.
    Well yes, I know that, and you know that. The question is do the offending tanks know that?
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  6. #16
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    Thela's Avatar
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    Thela Ivora
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Not much to say here except that you had some bad luck with tanks. Holding aggro now as a tank is not even something to think about, it just happens automatically if you do your job. Try as you might you will never pull aggro from a tank that plays their job correctly.
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  7. #17
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    Powercow's Avatar
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Not much to say here except that you had some bad luck with tanks. Holding aggro now as a tank is not even something to think about, it just happens automatically if you do your job. Try as you might you will never pull aggro from a tank that plays their job correctly.
    I'm leveling a tank right now and unless someone decides to be a dumb and unload everything during a multi-pull in a dungeon (after I only tapped it once) then, yeah, losing agro is outright impossible. The tank stance threat modifier is insane.
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  8. #18
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    YanderePrincess's Avatar
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    Svana Fyth
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Marianno View Post
    That actually happened in the 75lvl dungeon against the last boss. Had a paladin who thought he could not use tank stance. Healer went too heal right after the tank buster and party wide busters, healer took aggro, use lucid and still got one shot. Needless too say, it was pretty funny seeing how we were all torn too shreds lol
    Lucid doesn't cut enmity anymore.
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  9. #19
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    how exactly you lose aggro as tank in this new rework? when i play as tank i never see even once my party aggro reach half of mine, from start to finish they either stay at 1% or 20% of the bar.

    just get in, spam aoe combo nonstop, done. boss, press everything that is not aoe, done. tank aggro is ridiculous now, a dps accidentally get aggro, i test with auto attack and his aggro went from 100% to 20%ish.... with my auto attack, not a skill.
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  10. #20
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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I love how everyone is bringing up dungeons. Ya, there are a few times I have gotten agro, but it's really trials that makes me really wish I had diversion. When the mt dies and I have the boss and the ot struggles to get it from me it would just be nice for me to be able to assist and give the ot the boss soundly. Sure, in some instances the tank is bad, but I can think of other situations where it would have helped to have some agro mitigation. For instance, I often see healers higher up in agro chain. When a tank dies I've seen them die pretty quickly bc the ot was too slow to take the mob. Titania and her dps check being a good example where mobs are spread out around the arena making a tank death a problem. If se's plan is to make tanks be able to keep agro easily, I don't see what the big deal is in letting dps/healers have a button to assist and get the mob off of us.

    But that is just my opinion. I was never against popping agro mitigation skills like so many people have been. Dungeons it should never be a problem but in a raid situation is where I see this problem occurring very often.
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